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billryan
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November 16th, 2021 at 7:25:01 AM permalink
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YOU NEVER SAID WHAT GAME!!!!! What's the damned point of trying to answer you if you cannot complete the question and will not reply to any follow up questions.

For Baccarat: One wager of entire bankroll on Player. Two possible outcomes.
For Blackjack...

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I do believe most of you are missing my entire point and question.

And a few questions have been asked of you and ignored! Makes us less inclined to help.
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Let’s just take a simple figure of a players goal being $100. He brings a total of $100.00 for his attempt. He’s going to wager in $25 increments. Which would you do? In other words, he has $100.00, has to play in $25.00 increments and only wants $100.00 profit ASAP.

1. A one time wager of $100.00.

To bet entire session bankroll on a Blackjack wager is insane. What if he gets a pair of aces against a seven
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2. A wager of $50.00, one additional chance if you lose on wager 1. And if you won either wager 1 or wager 2, would you parlay the win money at all?

Also stupid!. He loses wager #1. wagers his remaining $50 and gets dealt those two aces again.
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3. A wager of $25.00 each time? Again, if you won would you continue flat betting $25.00 or would you parlay or increase your wager once you won?

Almost as dumb.
He must always wager a half of his standing bankroll or justy less. He must also never wager so much that a split or a double might overshoot his $100 profit goal.
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Without adding all of the side views and super smarts about win to loss, play ratios and best chances in and above the criteria, can you all answer the original question within the criteria given, please?

With your fingers as calculators, you have now been given the tools to work out the answer. To not do so would be to be ungrateful.
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If I have my entire BR on a bet and get Ace,Ace vs a Seven, I'll sell one of the Aces.
Who wouldn't buy one in those circumstances?
Doubles are nice, but I'd be happy not doubling an 11 vs. 8 if I couldn't afford it. Doubling actually decreases your chances of winning some hands since you only get one card. Some days, it seems like the only Aces I draw are on doubled-down elevens.
Where this really hurts is the inability to make some splits.
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November 16th, 2021 at 7:36:59 AM permalink
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I do believe most of you are missing my entire point and question.

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Nobody I know plays the way you suggest. (Maybe OD, but that's "research" not "play", and I doubt we'd recognize each other if he didn't see my duck.)

40x. You want to play $2.50 a round, you need $100 minimum.
You want to play $25 a round, you need $1000 minimum.

That's my thoughts.

Enjoy the day!
May the cards fall in your favor.
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November 16th, 2021 at 7:54:47 AM permalink
I thought the OP was about doing this at BJ. I was wrong. I now would bet it all on player at baccarat. Or all on single pass line or don’t pass bet at craps. Even though it technically isn’t the best bet, I’d roll the dice for the single pass line bet.

I made a long post earlier…. I am not sure anyone here can design the best BJ strategy…. But I’d like to see the Wiz, Doghand, ThatdonGuy, Mathextremist, etc. take a shot at it.
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November 16th, 2021 at 8:08:18 AM permalink
I suggest you need at least 8 bets available for the exceptional BJ hands that is split to 4 hands and double downed on. I've set my BJ sessions to 25 hand buy-ins. I suppose when I get below 8 bets left, I could pocket that and buy-in again; or buy-in again if I need the extra change to finish the hand.
So I could lose 3 of those exceptional hands in a row at a buy-in and be left with 1 bet left.
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November 16th, 2021 at 8:22:01 AM permalink
I’d bet $100 on commission free Pai Gow poker. It costs me like 83 cents in EV, but whatever.
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November 16th, 2021 at 8:50:51 AM permalink
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If I have my entire BR on a bet and get Ace,Ace vs a Seven, I'll sell one of the Aces.
Who wouldn't buy one in those circumstances?

I don't think my UK casino would permit that: They never even heard of doubling for less and laughed in my face when I suggested it.
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Doubles are nice, but I'd be happy not doubling an 11 vs. 8 if I couldn't afford it. Doubling actually decreases your chances of winning some hands since you only get one card. Some days, it seems like the only Aces I draw are on doubled-down elevens.
Where this really hurts is the inability to make some splits.
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True, True. Not being able to double is a minor niggle. Being unable to split and re-split is bad news.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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November 16th, 2021 at 9:05:29 AM permalink
Doubling for less is common practice in the highest majority of USA casinos.
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November 16th, 2021 at 11:30:35 AM permalink
I want to win, but when I gamble, I want to have some entertainment time (a half hour to hour per session), so I prefer the lowest limits possible. That usually means $5 table game wagers if they still exist.

I go to Palace Station for their $10 Pai Gow Tiles. I used to like $1 blackjack, but the stakes are so low, it doesn't provide an adrenaline rush, so $5 minimums are preferred.
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November 16th, 2021 at 9:11:10 PM permalink
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In your opinion and experience is it better to have more chances or do you feel it’s to your advantage to do it in fewer chances to reach your goal?

For example let’s just take a simple figure of a players goal being $100. He brings a total of $100.00 for his attempt. He’s going to wager in $25 increments. Which would you do?



The way this question is worded is extremely weird. You are asking me what I would do if I was him. I am not him, so I would not do any of that stuff at all. In general, if I think it is a good bet I will bet the most the casino will allow and I will do it as many times as I can. For this weird hypothetical, I would bet $100 one time and if it wins, keep repeating that bet. If it loses, go and get another $100 and try again. And keep doing that, so long as I think it is a good bet. If I ever think it is not a good bet, then I would lower my bet to $0.
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November 17th, 2021 at 12:28:51 AM permalink
Maybe he lost 29 black chips already and doesn't know what to do with the last and 30th one.
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