Deucekies
Deucekies
  • Threads: 58
  • Posts: 1486
Joined: Jan 20, 2014
October 5th, 2021 at 1:47:59 PM permalink
Here in the US, table games obviously have minimum wagers and maximum wagers. These limits apply to each wager individually.

I've been told in Australia, the standard for Baccarat is different. They still have minimum individual wagers, but instead of a maximum wager, they have a maximum "differential", meaning the spread between the Player bets and the Banker bets.

For example, if the maximum differential is $25,000, one bettor can literally bet $10,000,000 on Banker, just as long as the Player bets total at least $9,975,000.

Any particular reason we don't see it done that way in the US? Or do we in some places even?
Casinos are not your friends, they want your money. But so does Disneyland. And there is no chance in hell that you will go to Disneyland and come back with more money than you went with. - AxelWolf and Mickeycrimm
coachbelly
coachbelly
  • Threads: 1
  • Posts: 1231
Joined: Oct 21, 2013
October 5th, 2021 at 1:54:23 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

For example, if the maximum differential is $25,000, one bettor can literally bet $10,000,000 on Banker, just as long as the Player bets total at least $9,975,000.


What if there's only one bettor playing at the table? $25K max bet either way?
Deucekies
Deucekies
  • Threads: 58
  • Posts: 1486
Joined: Jan 20, 2014
October 5th, 2021 at 3:03:06 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

What if there's only one bettor playing at the table? $25K max bet either way?

  • link to original post


    That would be my understanding, yes.
    Casinos are not your friends, they want your money. But so does Disneyland. And there is no chance in hell that you will go to Disneyland and come back with more money than you went with. - AxelWolf and Mickeycrimm
    Wizard
    Administrator
    Wizard
    • Threads: 1520
    • Posts: 27126
    Joined: Oct 14, 2009
    October 5th, 2021 at 3:30:57 PM permalink
    Differentials are the order of the day in Macau.

    They make sense to me and I don't understand why you don't see them in Vegas.
    "For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
    Ace2
    Ace2
    • Threads: 32
    • Posts: 2706
    Joined: Oct 2, 2017
    October 5th, 2021 at 3:55:38 PM permalink
    You could also use differentials for even money roulette bets. One side pays off the other, minus the differential, except when the ball lands in green, in which case the house rakes both sides
    It’s all about making that GTA
    unJon
    unJon
    • Threads: 16
    • Posts: 4809
    Joined: Jul 1, 2018
    October 5th, 2021 at 4:12:20 PM permalink
    Think of the comps that DarkOz could generate with a differential system. :-)
    The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
    SOOPOO
    SOOPOO
    • Threads: 123
    • Posts: 11528
    Joined: Aug 8, 2010
    October 5th, 2021 at 5:06:59 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    Differentials are the order of the day in Macau.

    They make sense to me and I don't understand why you don't see them in Vegas.

  • link to original post



    I’ll give an example why. For simplicity, let’s say ‘differential’ is capped at $100k. Player A bets $60k on banker. Player B bets $50k on banker. Player C bets $90k on banker. Player D bets $30k on banker. What does the dealer do? All players dropped to $25k? All players dropped to 100/230 of their proposed bet? Good luck with the 100/230 multiple…..
    MDawg
    MDawg
    • Threads: 41
    • Posts: 8121
    Joined: Sep 27, 2018
    October 5th, 2021 at 8:26:00 PM permalink
    At a couple off-Strip casinos I’ve seen an “no aggregate payout over $30,000” at the public Baccarat tables where the table max is $10,000.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
    Kazza
    Kazza
    • Threads: 0
    • Posts: 1
    Joined: Dec 19, 2021
    December 19th, 2021 at 8:19:07 PM permalink
    Quote: SOOPOO



    I’ll give an example why. For simplicity, let’s say ‘differential’ is capped at $100k. Player A bets $60k on banker. Player B bets $50k on banker. Player C bets $90k on banker. Player D bets $30k on banker. What does the dealer do? All players dropped to $25k? All players dropped to 100/230 of their proposed bet? Good luck with the 100/230 multiple…..
    link to original post



    "Sorry guys, play cannot continue until the total bet is under the differential of 100k"

    I've literally never had problems with it. Players want the game to keep rolling so they will volunteer to reduce bets. Typically the high roller will reduce the most, or the players work it out amongst themselves.
    lilredrooster
    lilredrooster
    • Threads: 240
    • Posts: 7098
    Joined: May 8, 2015
    December 20th, 2021 at 2:17:45 PM permalink
    __________


    sorry, but to me it seems like a silly idea unless the bets are very, very large - maybe in Macau they have whales betting 10 mill - I doubt that in the U.S.
    it seems like it's slowing the game down for no good reason

    if not - what is the benefit to the casino? - surely they can handle large bets and accept large losses at times which will surely be offset by larger wins at other times
    that's the theory of gambling in a nutshell

    and what is the benefit to the bettors? - I don't see any at all

    I've read tales of baccarat tables where the bettors see themselves as betting against each other - not the house - that there's a lot of competition (fake competition) and animosity between the bettors at the table

    more silliness

    .
    the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
    • Jump to: