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July 27th, 2021 at 6:12:51 PM permalink
I saw this on Twitter:
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O'Sheas has a new table game that I have never seen before. If I had to guess, I think it probably plays like sic bo. If anyone out there has played it, please let me know its concept.




https://twitter.com/john_mehaffey/status/1420114269199273991?s=21
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July 27th, 2021 at 6:17:30 PM permalink
I have two thoughts:

If it痴 just the repeater bet without the other craps bets, why are there seven 7 spots?

The large layout leaves little room for the players to put their bankroll. And it痴 so large, it痴 ripe for past posting.
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July 27th, 2021 at 6:23:14 PM permalink
I saw this at the Nevada gaming site which shows it on trial at the Linq. I couldn't find anything on it though and assumed it was an updated version of the craps side bet.

But looky here, it's a full blown table game. I wonder how the dice are rolled. A cup?
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July 28th, 2021 at 8:49:13 AM permalink
Just looking at the 2/12 before 7 (3 for 1) and 3/11 before7 (2 for 1 - i.e. Evens) is terrible House Edge. I can see it as something that would work online, where once the next "game" starts and the rolls can be made automatically, fairly quickly, until the "7 -out"; but the odds need to be better.
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July 28th, 2021 at 8:59:59 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Just looking at the 2/12 before 7 (3 for 1) and 3/11 before7 (2 for 1 - i.e. Evens) is terrible House Edge. I can see it as something that would work online, where once the next "game" starts and the rolls can be made automatically, fairly quickly, until the "7 -out"; but the odds need to be better.



I've noticed most patrons in the casinos we frequent don't understand house edge, the math behind it or what is a good or bad bet. People will still bet the 2 or 12 as it is the required repeater the fewest times and pays 3:1.

You have no idea how many times I've had people tell me I am stupid for laying max odds on the Don't in craps because I have to lay $2 to win just $1 and that is a bad bet. In reality, people like us know it is the best bet in the casino.

For instance, if there was a craps game where you only had to lay 5/4 on the 4 or 10 in craps, people like us would play that game all day every day, we'd try to get as much action on it as we could. There would still be drunk idiots who have no understanding of math or gambling tell us it's a bad bet!
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July 28th, 2021 at 10:51:11 AM permalink
It is interesting to see this kind of a game design though. I could easily see a "repeater" gimmick using craps fundamentals as the base for such a game. People tend to want to believe things happen in a pattern, and the casino is probably one of the hyper aware places that you see that kind of mentality.
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July 28th, 2021 at 1:10:17 PM permalink
How much money for 18 yo's?
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July 29th, 2021 at 12:46:24 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

How much money for 18 yo's?


Probably 54 to 55 billion for one, if they offered a similar bet using the " Sweeter with the Repeater" *** game table.

***: Must hit 18 yo's before a 7
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August 4th, 2021 at 5:41:10 PM permalink
Sorry for the late arrival to this thread.

So far I have only the images earlier to go off of. I can't see the four bets in red on the left side of the table and none of the surrender values. Hopefully I'll have a chance to visit the Linq soon to get all the rules.

This includes the Repeater bets as already found at some casinos and covered in my page on Repeater Bets.

Here is my analysis of them.

Bet Rolls Pays Probability House edge
2 2 40 0.020408 0.183673
3 3 50 0.015625 0.218750
4 4 65 0.012346 0.197531
5 5 80 0.010240 0.180800
6 6 90 0.008820 0.206209
8 6 90 0.008820 0.206209
9 5 80 0.010240 0.180800
10 4 65 0.012346 0.197531
11 3 50 0.015625 0.218750
12 2 40 0.020408 0.183673


They add some horn type bets that win if any one of a group of bets win. The Even bet wins if any of the even bets (2, 4, 6, 8, 10, or 12) win and pays 12 for 1.

Likewise, the odd bet pays 18 for 1.

A Horn bet pays 12 for 1 and wins if the 2, 3, 11, or 12 bet win.

Much easier mathematically are the following bets:

3 or 11: Wins if a 3 or 11 is thrown before a 7. Pays 2 for 1.
2-3-11-12 (7x): Wins if the shooter throws any horn number 7 times before a total of 7.

You can't just add the probabilities to get a probability of winning, because they are correlated. A correct closed-form answer is pretty trick and worthy of discussion. I plan to bring it up in the Easy Math Puzzles page once the current problem is satisfactorily answered.

The spoiler button below shows my analysis of those.


Bet Pays Probability House edge
Even 12 0.065395 0.215265
Odd 18 0.043176 0.222839
3 or 11 2 0.400000 0.200000
Horn 12 0.062789 0.246528
2-3-11-12 100 0.007813 0.218750



If anyone can save me the trouble and give a full report on the game, please do!
Last edited by: Wizard on Aug 4, 2021
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August 6th, 2021 at 8:07:50 PM permalink
Please be the first to see my new page on Repeater Bets Plus.

As always, I welcome all comments, questions, and corrections.
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