Plastic shields here to stay
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1) After paying for installation why spend money to remove them
2) they do help keep players socially distant from drunks or loud players spreading their spittle
3)Cheating techniques are hampered. Switching cards, past posting, chip snatching etc.
Even cigarette smoke will be somewhat contained by the dividers (although not perfectly)
What are your thoughts on this?
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Cleaning them alone is a ton of labor. And in a few months they will be scratched and look old.
I have had concerns for quite a while that the electronic video versions of blackjack, large video screen with 5 player stations, would eventually replace the traditional tables, especially at the $25 and below levels. There may still be higher limit "felt table" games. Of course these games do nothing about the issue of social distancing.
The stadium type blackjack games where there is 1 live dealer and can be up to 100 player stations (usually around 50) can be spread out by a few feet to accommodate social distancing. I think back in April or so (on another forum) I predicted that you would see more stadium blackjack replacing traditional blackjack tables. Stations Casinos has done just that at I believe now ALL of it's open casinos. Haven't noticed others but then I haven't really been looking.
Of course Stadium style roulette and Pai Gow are also available and I think you will see more of that. Craps? well other than the bubble craps, which seems to have been not received that well, I am not familiar with any other electronic type craps game.
In short (although probably already too late for that lol), I think changes are/were coming to table games anyway. This situation is only going to speed that up.
Quote: darkozI think plastic shields put up on table games as social dividers will remain in place even after the pandemic is over.
1) After paying for installation why spend money to remove them
2) they do help keep players socially distant from drunks or loud players spreading their spittle
3)Cheating techniques are hampered. Switching cards, past posting, chip snatching etc.
Even cigarette smoke will be somewhat contained by the dividers (although not perfectly)
What are your thoughts on this?
Why not make them permanent?
Quote: AZDuffmanCleaning them alone is a ton of labor. And in a few months they will be scratched and look old.
Why would they get scratched? There's no need to touch them and you're also supposed to be wearing a mask.
Quote: AlanMendelsonWhy would they get scratched? There's no need to touch them and you're also supposed to be wearing a mask.
Have you ever been around plecto glass? Cleaning it scratches it. It will get touched. It does not hold up.
And I will repeat it. Who on earth wants to sit at a BJ table feeling like you are in county jail? I sure don't.
If the masks work, why do we need the plastic glass?
Quote: AZDuffmanHave you ever been around plecto glass? Cleaning it scratches it. It will get touched. It does not hold up.
And I will repeat it. Who on earth wants to sit at a BJ table feeling like you are in county jail? I sure don't.
If the masks work, why do we need the plastic glass?
I suspect you're against wearing masks too.
Unfortunately many do not wear masks properly. They expose their nose. They drop them to drink or smoke.
I'll take masks and plexiglass for 500, Alex.
Quote: AlanMendelsonI suspect you're against wearing masks too.
Unfortunately many do not wear masks properly. They expose their nose. They drop them to drink or smoke.
I'll take masks and plexiglass for 500, Alex.
Your suspicion is correct Alan.
AZ fought for months against masks on here.
Quote: AlanMendelsonI suspect you're against wearing masks too.
Unfortunately many do not wear masks properly. They expose their nose. They drop them to drink or smoke.
I'll take masks and plexiglass for 500, Alex.
Been discussed. You can read about it in the Coronavirus Math thread.
I bought a set of 5 face shields. Coronavirus can attack your eyes.
Quote: ChumpChangeI bought a 10 pack of Hanes face masks at the supermarket. I went shopping one day with that and felt I should stay with the N95 mask. I had a mild sore throat after using the cloth mask and I got worried.
I bought a set of 5 face shields. Coronavirus can attack your eyes.
Are the face shields comfortable to wear?
There's a national coin shortage, so the self checkout machines won't take cash or give out change.
I've read that some local ATM's (not local to me) have been out of cash for over a month.
Casinos here are due to open next weekend but I think people are saving, so it will be interesting to hear how they fare.
Quote: ChumpChangeI bought a 10 pack of Hanes face masks at the supermarket. I went shopping one day with that and felt I should stay with the N95 mask. I had a mild sore throat after using the cloth mask and I got worried.
I bought a set of 5 face shields. Coronavirus can attack your eyes.
Use the commonsense for saving lives. Stanford reserachers said that heating or steaming a n95facemask can sterilize covid19. So don't buy and use the cheap facemasks. Reuse your n95facemasks to prevent sucking the covid19 into your lungs.
Stanford reserachers said that heating or steaming a n95facemask can sterilize covid19.
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Until Uncle Sam orders Dupont to produce billions of n95facemasks for all Americans, I've kept doing what I have done since the LockDown: I've steamed, sterilized, and reused the same old n95facemasks. So far so good (fingers crossed and knock on wood). By the way, my own brother didn't care about the n95facemasks. He and his whole family got sickened with covid19, sad, but true.
Plus they will give up your spot away if you are gone for even 10 minutes, which is why people have started leaving their chips at the table to ensure their spot is given away prematurely.
Quote: jjjooogggWhen i traveled to see a chiropractor out of state, i went to a casino with shields. It didnt really change the game. But it does feel different. The players didnt seem to care.
The CEO of this casino is very smart. He comes up with the portable plexiglass shields/barriers. The degenerate-shooters don't care about the barriers. However, the "Tiger Woods of Craps" will not shoot the bones to make the firebet when a barrier (next to the stickman) is partially hamper his shot.
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Quote: ThisIsMyJamI don't see how the partitions can remain in place once the number of players per table returns to normal. It wouldn't be a comfortable experience to squish in there. Did you consider that or do you think the casinos would continue to limit the number of playing spaces even when not required?
The whole thing looks like a visit to county jail or stopping to a bodega in the bad part of town. Who on earth wants to be in a place like that?
Quote: AZDuffmanThe whole thing looks like a visit to county jail or stopping to a bodega in the bad part of town. Who on earth wants to be in a place like that?
I avoided them during my trip in June. I may give them a go next week since I'll be solo. I'm curious just how bad it is.
Quote: AZDuffmanThe whole thing looks like a visit to county jail or stopping to a bodega in the bad part of town. Who on earth wants to be in a place like that?
You never used a bank?
Quote: darkozYou never used a bank?
My bank does not have bulletproof glass like that. I avoid banks that are like that. Heck, my credit union is wide open, tellers at a sort of high desk not a traditional teller station.
Quote: AZDuffmanMy bank does not have bulletproof glass like that. I avoid banks that are like that. Heck, my credit union is wide open, tellers at a sort of high desk not a traditional teller station.
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Quote: AZDuffmanMy bank does not have bulletproof glass like that. I avoid banks that are like that. Heck, my credit union is wide open, tellers at a sort of high desk not a traditional teller station.
One of the banks I use just installed a double set of electronic doors so they can control egress and ingress. Only one person can enter at a time through the outside door, they then lock that door and unlock the interior door.
Quote: AZDuffmanMy bank does not have bulletproof glass like that. I avoid banks that are like that. Heck, my credit union is wide open, tellers at a sort of high desk not a traditional teller station.
I'm curious because I choose my shopping, dining and banking based on the quality of their service, not their security measures.
If I go to KFC, does their chicken at that location taste good, were workers amenable. Never occurred to me to turn down a places services because they have shields to protect from crime.
Is this kind of an America Free type of thing? Free not to wear masks, free to open in a pandemic, free to be wide open to theft and criminality?
Quote: darkozI'm curious because I choose my shopping, dining and banking based on the quality of their service, not their security measures.
If I go to KFC, does their chicken at that location taste good, were workers amenable. Never occurred to me to turn down a places services because they have shields to protect from crime.
Places with extreme security measures feel unsafe and often are unsafe. I do not want to walk into or out of a bank with a wad of bills if there is such a chance of robbery that they need to have thick glass between me and the tellers. A fast food place like that is usually a mess and has bums bothering the legit diners.
Quote:Is this kind of an America Free type of thing? Free not to wear masks, free to open in a pandemic, free to be wide open to theft and criminality?
Should not have to wear masks and should be allowed to open up. As to security you do what the neighborhood requires. I am sure a place on Staten Island does not need the same security that a place in Queens or the Bronx needs. A place in White Plains needs even less security.
Perfect example is one of the McDonald's in downtown Pittsburgh. Signs all over saying "20 minute table limit." I have been there when the manager had to come out and roust people who were loitering. Out in the suburbs MCD stores allow if not encourage seniors to hang out during the breakfast hours. You customize to the market and the situation.
Quote: AZDuffmanPlaces with extreme security measures feel unsafe and often are unsafe. I do not want to walk into or out of a bank with a wad of bills if there is such a chance of robbery that they need to have thick glass between me and the tellers. A fast food place like that is usually a mess and has bums bothering the legit diners.
Should not have to wear masks and should be allowed to open up. As to security you do what the neighborhood requires. I am sure a place on Staten Island does not need the same security that a place in Queens or the Bronx needs. A place in White Plains needs even less security.
Perfect example is one of the McDonald's in downtown Pittsburgh. Signs all over saying "20 minute table limit." I have been there when the manager had to come out and roust people who were loitering. Out in the suburbs MCD stores allow if not encourage seniors to hang out during the breakfast hours. You customize to the market and the situation.
Sounds like the senior citizens were just being allowed to loiter. I hope if some young black youths did the same thing in that McDonald's they would not be rousted
Quote: darkozSounds like the senior citizens were just being allowed to loiter. I hope if some young black youths did the same thing in that McDonald's they would not be rousted
The loitering problem in town was usually black yutes. ("Young Youths" is a redundant term.)
Seniors would be rousted there too, except they would not be at a store in the middle of downtown.
If the black yutes were out in the suburbs I imagine it would matter how they were behaving, if they were loud and bothering people I would expect them to be booted.
Quote: AZDuffmanThe loitering problem in town was usually black yutes. ("Young Youths" is a redundant term.)
Seniors would be rousted there too, except they would not be at a store in the middle of downtown.
If the black yutes were out in the suburbs I imagine it would matter how they were behaving, if they were loud and bothering people I would expect them to be booted.
I would hope if the seniors were rowdy they would get booted too
Quote: darkozI would hope if the seniors were rowdy they would get booted too
They probably would. Doubt it happens.
FWIW the manager at the town one was a middle aged black guy and had a no nonsense attitude. Kind of guy made for the place but you wondered if he could work out in the suburbs after years in the city.
Quote: darkozI would hope if the seniors were rowdy they would get booted too
They've probably all got their walkers lined up out on the sidewalk. As soon as they all get through using the rest room I'm sure they'll mount up and move on. Ready to meet up with their mall-walking dolls and then get over to Denny's for the 4pm early bird specials. The Wild Bunch. Is Marlon Brando still alive?
Quote: racquetThey've probably all got their walkers lined up out on the sidewalk. As soon as they all get through using the rest room I'm sure they'll mount up and move on. Ready to meet up with their mall-walking dolls and then get over to Denny's for the 4pm early bird specials. The Wild Bunch. Is Marlon Brando still alive?
A woman who worked for me once previously worked at a BK franchisee. She worked at a mall location and seniors got a free coffee with any purchase. The desert cookie was the cheapest thing on the menu so that is what they bought. I think she said that store sold more cookies than any in the system.
It is a big social thing on the senior life to meet up at these places.
But now everything is prepay only
Quote: Gabes22Another thing that used to get me was pre-pay or pay at the pump. I would not go to any facility that asked me to walk in and pay before I pumped. Not only cuz it felt unsafe but now I have to guess how much is left in the tank and then if I overshoot by $2 I gotta wait in line again to get my money back? No thanks
But now everything is prepay only
Use a credit card and save yourself the trouble.
Quote: DRichUse a credit card and save yourself the trouble.
Using a credit card at the pump can lead to all sorts of problems, especially if your available credit isn't so high. I've read horror stories of cloning devices attached to the machines and some places putting $200 holds on your card. Stop for gas a few times driving long distance and suddenly your card is declined at a hotel because you are at your limit. My bank recommends you go in and prepay rather than have them open a line of credit while you pump. I like to use the opportunity to stretch my legs.
Quote: billryanUsing a credit card at the pump can lead to all sorts of problems, especially if your available credit isn't so high. I've read horror stories of cloning devices attached to the machines and some places putting $200 holds on your card. Stop for gas a few times driving long distance and suddenly your card is declined at a hotel because you are at your limit. My bank recommends you go in and prepay rather than have them open a line of credit while you pump. I like to use the opportunity to stretch my legs.
Just use your American Express, there is no limit.
Quote: Gabes22Another thing that used to get me was pre-pay or pay at the pump. I would not go to any facility that asked me to walk in and pay before I pumped. Not only cuz it felt unsafe but now I have to guess how much is left in the tank and then if I overshoot by $2 I gotta wait in line again to get my money back? No thanks
But now everything is prepay only
But it used to be you went with X in cash and bought that much gas. You would figure get $5-10 worth, unless you were going on a trip and said "fillerup." Even if you were filling it and paying cash you would often stop at a round number.
Only time I do not fillerup now is if I my free gas from the grocery program is expiring and I do not have my spare cans with me.
Then perhaps buying gas cards would solve both issues.Quote: billryanUsing a credit card at the pump can lead to all sorts of problems, especially if your available credit isn't so high. I've read horror stories of cloning devices attached to the machines and some places putting $200 holds on your card. Stop for gas a few times driving long distance and suddenly your card is declined at a hotel because you are at your limit. My bank recommends you go in and prepay rather than have them open a line of credit while you pump. I like to use the opportunity to stretch my legs.
