DRich
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February 23rd, 2020 at 1:18:21 PM permalink
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Casino is 24hr. Gaming is different from food service. Here in Nev, when they have pool parties or cover charges to areas where there is gaming, you cannot be stopped from playing. You bypass the long line to enter and dont pay a cover if you say you are there to play. I know this scenario is a bit different. But to your point, if they decide to close a game while there are still players playing, then they need to close EVERY game.

I have to contact gaming or try to see if there is anything mentioned in our NRS statue



In Nevada they can close a game at anytime. I have been at tables multiple times where they closed them.
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Zcore13
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February 23rd, 2020 at 1:25:07 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Casino is 24hr. Gaming is different from food service. Here in Nev, when they have pool parties or cover charges to areas where there is gaming, you cannot be stopped from playing. You bypass the long line to enter and dont pay a cover if you say you are there to play. I know this scenario is a bit different. But to your point, if they decide to close a game while there are still players playing, then they need to close EVERY game.

I have to contact gaming or try to see if there is anything mentioned in our NRS statue



I'm pretty sure you are wrong. I know for sure that's the case in Az. Games can be opened and closed based on staffing and business needs. It's more than just a dealer that is needed to keep an extra table or pit open. And if you're not playing at a certain minimum it's not worth keeping it open.


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Deucekies
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February 23rd, 2020 at 1:54:40 PM permalink
I've had to kick players off a table before. Sometimes it's due to staffing, sometimes it's due to other factors. Spill on the table, shuffler won't work, camera malfunction, etc.

I'll agree with the OP that it seems odd to close the only DJW table. I would have sooner closed whatever blackjack table had the smallest action. Presumably I've got several of those open.
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AZDuffman
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February 23rd, 2020 at 3:49:30 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Casino is 24hr. Gaming is different from food service. Here in Nev, when they have pool parties or cover charges to areas where there is gaming, you cannot be stopped from playing. You bypass the long line to enter and dont pay a cover if you say you are there to play. I know this scenario is a bit different. But to your point, if they decide to close a game while there are still players playing, then they need to close EVERY game.

I have to contact gaming or try to see if there is anything mentioned in our NRS statue



That doesn't make sense. EVERY game? Why? I see not one good reason.

Staffing is made on projections. Sometimes people call off. Either way, staffing can be short and adjustments need to be made. They were extra polite in giving notice. That lets players who have a goal or are working their own betting patterns to finish. No matter what it was polite. Like giving notice limits are going up. By your logic there, limits need to go up on ALL tables, no?

You were playing a game and they had to make a staffing adjustment. Big deal, Get on with your life. Find something important to be upset about.
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February 23rd, 2020 at 3:52:03 PM permalink
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But if they were going to close it, I was going to purposely walk out and go home, leaving my $1200 on the table. The pit boss would had to wait thinking I would come back and would had to finally fill out paperwork to send my chips to the cage.




Gosh, get a life. That's ridiculous.
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February 23rd, 2020 at 6:28:35 PM permalink
Well, like a casino, the aircraft carriers that I served on operated 24/7 and our unlicensed poker table kept getting shut down all the time :-). At least there was no rake.
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February 23rd, 2020 at 7:25:49 PM permalink
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Gosh, get a life. That's ridiculous.



Particular shift manager does everything he can to drive away my action. He has threatened to back me off on UTH because I was helping other players how to play. He said the casino was better off without me for a couple of reasons, I was a winning player and I was helping others win. No different than someone giving advice in a BJ game. Fine, I stopped giving advice. I stopped playing UTH and transitioned to DJ. Iím having better success playing DJ than UTH. Now heís accusing me of exposing my cards and slowing down the game. He should watch me play before accusing me of any wrong doing. Iíve been a life long poker player, itís a habit for me not to expose my cards. And I always sit at 3rd base so itís really difficult to see what I have. Every other player shares, expose or even shows their happy winning hands. Many players pinch their cards then arrange their hand in whatever order, that slows down the game. It takes me one second for me to read my hand and I either bet or donít play. Iím literally the fastest DJ player in Reno. I donít waste time sorting my cards. Now since I sit at 3rd base, my hand is 1st to be turned over by the dealer if played so once everyone has acted I usually just spread my cards face up and I bet or donít bet. Iím actually saving time by doing something that the dealer has to do anyways. I donít know howís thatís exposing the cards since everyone else has either folded or already bet. Iím expediting the game. But again, no big deal, I can just turn my hand face down and let the dealer turn it over.

When I play live poker I love really fast dealers who can pitch the cards. I hate slow dealers, or worst slow dealers who talk. I donít mind dealers who talk as long as they keep the game going. Players who play slow also irritates me. This is my mindset playing the table games, I like to play fast. So LOL on the manager saying Iím slowing down the game.
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February 23rd, 2020 at 8:07:02 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Particular shift manager does everything he can to drive away my action. He has threatened to back me off on UTH because I was helping other players how to play. He said the casino was better off without me for a couple of reasons, I was a winning player and I was helping others win. No different than someone giving advice in a BJ game. Fine, I stopped giving advice. I stopped playing UTH and transitioned to DJ. Iím having better success playing DJ than UTH. Now heís accusing me of exposing my cards and slowing down the game. He should watch me play before accusing me of any wrong doing. Iíve been a life long poker player, itís a habit for me not to expose my cards. And I always sit at 3rd base so itís really difficult to see what I have. Every other player shares, expose or even shows their happy winning hands. Many players pinch their cards then arrange their hand in whatever order, that slows down the game. It takes me one second for me to read my hand and I either bet or donít play. Iím literally the fastest DJ player in Reno. I donít waste time sorting my cards. Now since I sit at 3rd base, my hand is 1st to be turned over by the dealer if played so once everyone has acted I usually just spread my cards face up and I bet or donít bet. Iím actually saving time by doing something that the dealer has to do anyways. I donít know howís thatís exposing the cards since everyone else has either folded or already bet. Iím expediting the game. But again, no big deal, I can just turn my hand face down and let the dealer turn it over.

When I play live poker I love really fast dealers who can pitch the cards. I hate slow dealers, or worst slow dealers who talk. I donít mind dealers who talk as long as they keep the game going. Players who play slow also irritates me. This is my mindset playing the table games, I like to play fast. So LOL on the manager saying Iím slowing down the game.



There's just too much here to laugh at, but the funniest is that you think you can decide the rules you play by. You think since you are last to play and first to be settled that you can play them face up. Have you ever thought to ask the people that are really in charge if that's ok? Have you ever thought that dealers can get written up by surveillance for allowing players to do that?

You sound like someone I would just kick out rather than have to deal with you. Not worth the trouble to everyone.


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RoyalBJ
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February 23rd, 2020 at 8:16:21 PM permalink
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In Nevada, does a pit boss have the right to close a table game while there are still players playing? I was surprised to be told that my game (DJ Wild) will be closing in 20 minutes due to not having enough (graveyard) dealers. The real reason they are too cheap to pay OT.



When U said "my game (DJ Wild) ", I thought you were the owner/developer of the game. Actually, you were just playing the casino's game. It can shut down its game any time it wants. Can a restaurant tell its customers that it's closing because the cook wants to go home? I think YES.
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February 23rd, 2020 at 9:23:06 PM permalink
Yeah, casinos can shut down games with players. Like it or not, they are a business and can do what's in their best interest. Without being there, it's hard to tell if the shift manager is unnecessarily singling you out to criticize you for other things or if you're causing issues. The game will open again eventually, better to just accept it, appreciate that it was open and move on.
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