SOOPOO
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January 3rd, 2020 at 7:49:30 AM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

As a dealer, I've dealt myself ten Ace-highs in a half hour. I've also gone a week without a single Ace-high. Variance is a fickle thing.

If you really saw twenty Ace-highs in such a short span, why didn't you bet the Ace-high bonus? If the shuffler is rigged to give the dealer Ace-highs, it would follow that the Ace-high bonus would be player advantage.



"A week without an Ace high"???? As a dealer? How many hands do you think you dealt that week? 500? More?
Zcore13
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January 3rd, 2020 at 8:58:24 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

"A week without an Ace high"???? As a dealer? How many hands do you think you dealt that week? 500? More?



He's exaggerating. He didn't deal himself 10 Ace high's in 30 minutes either.


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SOOPOO
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January 3rd, 2020 at 9:00:47 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

He's exaggerating. He didn't deal himself 10 Ace high's in 30 minutes either.


ZCore13



I know both of those things. But his post does NOT seem to be sarcastic, rather, to me he is stating those events as fact. So I am probing for details....
GeoducknCrab
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January 3rd, 2020 at 10:10:56 AM permalink
The house edge in this game is 1.8% which I believe is less than standard Pia Gow Poker. The odds of an Ace High is about 9.29%. I like this game because is moves along faster than standard Pia Gow Poker. This may also be the reason that the house offers a game with a lower house edge.
Deucekies
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January 3rd, 2020 at 11:35:58 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

He's exaggerating. He didn't deal himself 10 Ace high's in 30 minutes either.


ZCore13



Remember Pai Gow is just one game I deal. I typically deal it twice a shift, so one hour a shift, four hours a week.

A whole week without an ace high may be an exaggeration. Maybe there was one or two in there.

I am not kidding about ten Ace-highs though. That did happen, and there were only two players playing no bonuses. That's why I was able to deal so fast. Every Ace-high was a chuck-it-in hand, so I was dealing like lightning. I probably got 30 hands out in 30 minutes.
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January 3rd, 2020 at 11:49:06 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

"A week without an Ace high"???? As a dealer? How many hands do you think you dealt that week? 500? More?



Probably 80-120, if that. As I told Zcore, Pai Gow is just one game in the rotation, so I only deal it once or twice a night for a half hour each time. It's not a big sample size.
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January 4th, 2020 at 7:38:58 AM permalink
Quote: Nimadamus

fast forward to recent years. Not only has regular pai gow seemingly gotten worse

Tell that to the guys(MD) who claim it's a positive cashflow game for themselves.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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January 4th, 2020 at 2:58:05 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

It's incredible the depths people will sink to to justify why they lost on a negative expectation game designed to make them lose.



He's not justifying WHY he lost, but rather HOW he lost. I don't see him claiming it's not a negative expectation game.
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Deucekies
January 4th, 2020 at 3:57:05 PM permalink
House edge of pai gow poker, using house way and not banking = 2.72%
House edge of Face Up Pai Gow Poker = 1.81%
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
smoothgrh
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January 8th, 2020 at 12:34:28 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

House edge of pai gow poker, using house way and not banking = 2.72%
House edge of Face Up Pai Gow Poker = 1.81%



Huh. To hell with "for sentimental reasons!"

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