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September 10th, 2019 at 9:38:16 PM permalink
I noticed another baccarat side bet at the Venetian yesterday called the Lucky 6. It pays on a winning banker total of 6. Obviously, it is used in the commission-free variant that pays 1 to 2 on a Banker win of 6.

Please click the link for all the rules and analysis. As always, I welcome all comments.

The question for the poll is would you bet the Lucky 6 if playing baccarat anyway?
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MrCasinoGames
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September 11th, 2019 at 4:25:24 AM permalink
I think they have Lucky-6 in Macau Casinos too.
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September 11th, 2019 at 6:51:19 AM permalink
I have seen this at Cosmopolitan since I started playing there in 2018, they call it the "Tiger" bet. I never bet it. But as well, if I am playing big I avoid this "no commission" table entirely. For example the other night I won three large hands 5000 5000 5500 on a regular commission table. One of them was a bank win 6, if I had been at the "Tiger" table I would have had to pay $2500. (versus the $250. commission that I did pay) that would have been painful.
billryan
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September 11th, 2019 at 7:32:58 AM permalink
Pain is for small players.
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September 11th, 2019 at 8:06:04 AM permalink
Wiz,

On your Lucky 6 page, rule 2 says:

"If the Banker bet wins with a 3-card total of 6, then the Lucky 6 pays 24 for 1."

However, your payable says 23:1.

I suspect at least one of these values is incorrect ;-)

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
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September 11th, 2019 at 8:27:49 AM permalink
Dog it's just the way they do it, for example Baccarat tie bet is marked on the felt as paying "9 for 1" which means "8:1" - same thing.

23:1 is the same as paying 24 for 1.

However, at the Cosmopolitan, the Tiger Bank 6 win for three cards pays 20:1, with two cards, 12:1 , so either this casino Wiz has reviewed pays better than the Cosmopolitan, or he has made a mistake as to the payoffs. I haven't played the commission free tables at the Venetian yet, so I cannot confirm, but it seems odd that Venetian would be paying better odds on Baccarat than Cosmopolitan, but I suppose it is possible.

I would be willing to bet that Venetian and Cosmo have the same payoffs on their commission free tables, that is 12:1 for two card Bank 6, 20:1 for three card Bank 6. I can't see two casinos on the strip paying differently for the same game, whether called Lucky 6 or Tiger.
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September 11th, 2019 at 1:36:26 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Dog it's just the way they do it, for example Baccarat tie bet is marked on the felt as paying "9 for 1" which means "8:1" - same thing.

23:1 is the same as paying 24 for 1.

However, at the Cosmopolitan, the Tiger Bank 6 win for three cards pays 20:1, with two cards, 12:1 , so either this casino Wiz has reviewed pays better than the Cosmopolitan, or he has made a mistake as to the payoffs. I haven't played the commission free tables at the Venetian yet, so I cannot confirm, but it seems odd that Venetian would be paying better odds on Baccarat than Cosmopolitan, but I suppose it is possible.

I would be willing to bet that Venetian and Cosmo have the same payoffs on their commission free tables, that is 12:1 for two card Bank 6, 20:1 for three card Bank 6. I can't see two casinos on the strip paying differently for the same game, whether called Lucky 6 or Tiger.



How much would you like to bet? I will take the "no" , they are not the same bet.
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September 11th, 2019 at 2:09:23 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: MDawg

Dog it's just the way they do it, for example Baccarat tie bet is marked on the felt as paying "9 for 1" which means "8:1" - same thing.

23:1 is the same as paying 24 for 1.

However, at the Cosmopolitan, the Tiger Bank 6 win for three cards pays 20:1, with two cards, 12:1 , so either this casino Wiz has reviewed pays better than the Cosmopolitan, or he has made a mistake as to the payoffs. I haven't played the commission free tables at the Venetian yet, so I cannot confirm, but it seems odd that Venetian would be paying better odds on Baccarat than Cosmopolitan, but I suppose it is possible.

I would be willing to bet that Venetian and Cosmo have the same payoffs on their commission free tables, that is 12:1 for two card Bank 6, 20:1 for three card Bank 6. I can't see two casinos on the strip paying differently for the same game, whether called Lucky 6 or Tiger.



How much would you like to bet? I will take the "no" , they are not the same bet.



Itís got to be at least $5000. Anything less isnít worth his time.
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September 11th, 2019 at 2:34:20 PM permalink
Who owns this game? Any patent? Anyone knows?
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September 11th, 2019 at 3:07:18 PM permalink
Beach: so the bet is that the Tiger baccarat game at Cosmopolitan Vegas and the Lucky 6 baccarat at Venetian Vegas have different odds for the payment of the Bank 6?

The payout is 20:1 for three card Bank 6 at Cosmo, and 12:1 for two card Bank 6 at Cosmo on their "commissionless" game. I bet that the payout is exactly the same for the Lucky 6 "commissionless" Baccarat game at Venetian. This is based on, how could it not be and my knowledge of gambling. You wish to bet against me?

I will go further and bet that The Wizard is wrong if he claims that the payout for the Lucky 6 at Venetian is 23:1 for a three card Bank 6.

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