UCivan
UCivan
Joined: Sep 3, 2011
  • Threads: 77
  • Posts: 815
Thanks for this post from:
MrCasinoGamesGialmere
June 1st, 2019 at 10:49:58 PM permalink
Saw this new game on Gaming Control's web:

New Game: “QUICK PAY BLACKJACK”
Live Game Developer: GOLDEN DRAGON GAMING
Trial Location: PLANET HOLLYWOOD RESORT & CASINO
3667 LAS VEGAS BLVD S
LAS VEGAS, NV 89109

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdg_gFriBg&t=209s

The video was posted over one year ago. Tough to introduce a new game.

Have u seen it in action?
Romes
Romes
Joined: Jul 22, 2014
  • Threads: 27
  • Posts: 5393
June 1st, 2019 at 11:57:57 PM permalink
I feel like that video must not explain "all" of the rules of the game. What happens to the "2nd bet" if I have a 15 against a 7? Or 15 against a 6 even... then am I forced to "play both bets" or can I just play the main, or can I bail out?
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
ksdjdj
ksdjdj
Joined: Oct 20, 2013
  • Threads: 69
  • Posts: 401
June 2nd, 2019 at 5:40:35 AM permalink
I agree with the post above (it doesn't explain enough of the rules), and I would also like to know how they get a house edge of 0.4% to 1.58%.

The dealer seems to check for bj after the player has made a decision (the rules aren't listed though).
Going by the video you would:
1) bail out with an 18 vs 9, T or A. this is worth an extra ~18.5% to ~37.5% increase in value to the player on those hands
2) take the "1/2 pay" with a 19 vs T or A, this is worth ~26.4% and ~ 36.2% increase in value to the player.
3) take the "6/5 pay" with a 20 vs T or A, this is worth ~16.2% and ~44.9% increase in value to the player.
4) Hedge a "dealer 5 getting 21, pays 11/1", this is worth ~29.5% increase in value to the player (increase in value is based on the size of the hedge bet, not the main bet)
5) Only losing half with a 16 vs dealer A if the dealer get BJ, this is worth 15.37%??? to the player.
And others advantages I may have missed from the video.

???: not sure if this figure is correct (I used 50% x "chance of dealer bj").

I can't see how being forced to make two*** main bets would make up for all these good rules, but at the same time the guy wouldn't be offering it, if he couldn't prove to the casino that it is a house edge game.

***: I know it reduces the advantage to the player, but how much is what I would like to know.

note: i couldn't find any game rules so I used, 6 - deck, S17, "Dealer doesn't peek for BJ" and BJ pays 3/2.

------
Update:

"The player is allowed to surrender to the house when receives a poor hand. The dealer pushes all remaining bets on a hand of 17.
When the dealer has a hand of 17
The player pushes even with a poor hand of 12 Through 17.."

This is another really good rule for the player, and is worth:
1) ~10.7% if you stand on a 16 vs dealer 7,
2) ~ 6.8% if you stand on a 15 ....
3) ~ 2.5% if you stand on a 14 ...
4) play basic strategy with all other hands vs dealer 7, and if the above rule/bonus also applies to a multi-hand hard 14 to 16, then stand on those hands against a dealer 7.
Last edited by: ksdjdj on Jun 2, 2019
DogHand
DogHand
Joined: Sep 24, 2011
  • Threads: 1
  • Posts: 231
June 2nd, 2019 at 7:58:37 AM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Saw this new game on Gaming Control's web:

New Game: “QUICK PAY BLACKJACK”
Live Game Developer: GOLDEN DRAGON GAMING
Trial Location: PLANET HOLLYWOOD RESORT & CASINO
3667 LAS VEGAS BLVD S
LAS VEGAS, NV 89109

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdg_gFriBg&t=209s

The video was posted over one year ago. Tough to introduce a new game.

Have u seen it in action?



UCivan,

Can you post a link to the game rules, or at least the webpage at NGC where you saw this? As demonstrated in this thread, trying to determine the rules from a video is difficult.

Dog Hand
UCivan
UCivan
Joined: Sep 3, 2011
  • Threads: 77
  • Posts: 815
June 2nd, 2019 at 8:21:29 AM permalink
I don't know anything about the game; just found it on web and was looking for someone to post more information.
Wiz usually visit new games.
DogHand
DogHand
Joined: Sep 24, 2011
  • Threads: 1
  • Posts: 231
June 2nd, 2019 at 1:16:57 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

I don't know anything about the game; just found it on web and was looking for someone to post more information.
Wiz usually visit new games.



UCivan,

WHERE did you find it? Did the webpage contain the rules?

Dog Hand
Gialmere
Gialmere
Joined: Nov 26, 2018
  • Threads: 28
  • Posts: 746
Thanks for this post from:
MrCasinoGames
June 2nd, 2019 at 1:45:54 PM permalink
https://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=84

It's listed (along with 3 Card Blitz) on the field trial page. I don't, however, think they post the rules unless a game is accepted due to last minute tweaking.
Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
Wizard
Administrator
Wizard
Joined: Oct 14, 2009
  • Threads: 1223
  • Posts: 20327
June 7th, 2019 at 2:56:44 PM permalink
Just saw this. I'm also having a hard time piecing together the rules from that video and can find no other source.

Anyone going to the PH to investigate?
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
miplet
miplet
Joined: Dec 1, 2009
  • Threads: 5
  • Posts: 1903
Thanks for this post from:
MrCasinoGamesksdjdj
June 7th, 2019 at 5:35:14 PM permalink
I’m just on my phone, but http://www.mikepertgen.com/quickpay.html might have a playable version. It says it requires flash.
“Man Babes” #AxelFabulous
Wizard
Administrator
Wizard
Joined: Oct 14, 2009
  • Threads: 1223
  • Posts: 20327
June 7th, 2019 at 5:37:33 PM permalink
Quote: miplet

I’m just on my phone, but http://www.mikepertgen.com/quickpay.html might have a playable version. It says it requires flash.



Good detective work Miplet. It works on my computer.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.

  • Jump to: