## Poll

 Golden 8 No votes (0%) Fortune 7 No votes (0%) Heavenly 9 1 vote (11.11%) Blazing 7s No votes (0%) All of them 1 vote (11.11%) None of them 2 votes (22.22%) Blazing 7s should have an apostrophe 1 vote (11.11%) I'm thinking of taking up tap dancing. No votes (0%) Wizard Live Stream reminder 3:00 on Thursdays 2 votes (22.22%) Grumpy Cat -- RIP 6 votes (66.66%)

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DogHand

Joined: Sep 24, 2011
• Posts: 515
June 1st, 2019 at 10:47:28 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

<snip>I updated that losing combinations number, but you can find this problem all over the site in hundreds of games. Not much I can do about it until Excel can support more significant digits.

Wizard,

If you don't mind using User Defined Functions (UDF's), the following website describes how you can perform Large Number Arithmetic in Excel:

http://www.tushar-mehta.com/misc_tutorials/project_euler/LargeNumberArithmetic.htm

Tushar's method will permit you to use integers in the range of +/-79,228,162,514,264,337,593,543,950,335 which should be sufficient ;-)

Two drawbacks:

1. These large numbers are represented as text, so if you try to use the large numbers directly in calculations, Excel automatically reverts to its 15-significant-figure limit (though, honestly, I doubt you'd notice the difference when calculating Probabilities between dividing by 4,885,765,264,174,340 as opposed to 4,885,765,264,174,336). If you REALLY want to use all the digits, you have to use the UDF's.

2. He doesn't give a division algorithm UDF.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
ssho88
Joined: Oct 16, 2011
• Posts: 612
June 17th, 2019 at 10:19:52 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

With the Fortune 7 the Banker has to win with the three-card 7. In Blazing 7s, it doesn't matter if the 7 wins, loses, or ties.

I'll try to clarify that table title.

"Blazing 7s — Wins if the Player or Banker have a three-card total of 7. Pays 200 to 1 if both do and 50 to 1 if one does."

Then Blazing 7s is much better than Fortune 7 simply because have higher pay( 1 pay 50) and yet it can be either BANKER or PLAYER. Am I missing something ?

a) P(T,3) vs B(T,7), PLAYER draw a 4, so final hand is P(T,3,4) vs B(T,7) 1 pay 200 or 1 pay 50 ?

b) P(T,T) vs B(T,7), PLAYER draw a 8, so final hand is P(T,T,8) vs B(T,7) loss 1 unit ?

c) P(T,T) vs B(T,2), PLAYER draw a 7 and BANKER draw a 5, so final hand is P(T,T,7) vs B(T,2,5) 1 pay 200 ?

d) P(T,2) vs B(T,2), PLAYER draw a 6 and BANKER draw a 5, so final hand is P(T,2,6) vs B(T,2,5), 1 pay 50 ?
Marcusclark66
Joined: Mar 26, 2020
• Posts: 1140
August 11th, 2020 at 2:20:26 PM permalink
Quote: ssho88

Quote: Wizard

With the Fortune 7 the Banker has to win with the three-card 7. In Blazing 7s, it doesn't matter if the 7 wins, loses, or ties.

I'll try to clarify that table title.

"Blazing 7s — Wins if the Player or Banker have a three-card total of 7. Pays 200 to 1 if both do and 50 to 1 if one does."

Then Blazing 7s is much better than Fortune 7 simply because have higher pay( 1 pay 50) and yet it can be either BANKER or PLAYER. Am I missing something ?

a) P(T,3) vs B(T,7), PLAYER draw a 4, so final hand is P(T,3,4) vs B(T,7) 1 pay 200 or 1 pay 50 ?

b) P(T,T) vs B(T,7), PLAYER draw a 8, so final hand is P(T,T,8) vs B(T,7) loss 1 unit ?

c) P(T,T) vs B(T,2), PLAYER draw a 7 and BANKER draw a 5, so final hand is P(T,T,7) vs B(T,2,5) 1 pay 200 ?

d) P(T,2) vs B(T,2), PLAYER draw a 6 and BANKER draw a 5, so final hand is P(T,2,6) vs B(T,2,5), 1 pay 50 ?

My understanding of the game is on the Blazing Sevens is, if both sides have a three card 7 then it's 200 to 1. If both sides have a 2 card 7 then it will pay 50 to 1. What is important to remember both sides have to have three cards or both sides have to have two cards. Not two on one and three on the other.

Either way it will always have to be a tie.
Last edited by: Marcusclark66 on Aug 11, 2020
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