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January 30th, 2019 at 10:02:17 PM permalink
I just noticed a new game called Super Three Card at the Rampart casino today. It is listed neither as field trial game nor on the Galaxy Gaming web site, which owns it. It was closed at the time, but I grabbed a tiny rule card and wrote down the pay tables.

Here are scans of both sides of the rule card.



It is basically a cross between Three Card Poker and Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em.

Here is the pay table for the Odds bet, which is the equivalent to the Blind bet in Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em (a very negative EV mandated side bet).

Mini Royal: 100 to 1
Suited three of a kind: 50 to 1
Straight flush: 15 to 1
Three of a kind: 5 to 1
Straight: 3 to 1
Suited pair: 2 to 1
Flush: 1 to 1
Jacks or better: 1 to 1

The Big Hand Bonus I think works like the Trips bet in Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em, a bet based on the player hand only. Here is the Rampart pay table.

Three suited aces: 500 to 1
Mini Royal: 150 to 1
Suited three of a kind: 100 to 1
Straight flush: 50 to 1
Three of a kind: 30 to 1
Straight: 6 to 1
Suited pair: 4 to 1
Flush: 3 to 1

There is also a progressive $1 "red light" side bet. The jackpot was at $5173.56 at the time was there this morning (Jan 30, 2018).

Three suited aces or Mini Royal: Jackpot
Suited three of a kind: $125
Straight flush: $25
Three of a kind: $20
Straight: $6
Flush: $2

The big questions I have on the rules are the number of decks (it's clearly more than two if a suited three of a kind is possible) and whether the singleton has to be in the same suit as a "suited pair."

Once I get more information, I'll update these rules.

The question for the poll is would you play Super Three Card?
Last edited by: Wizard on Jan 31, 2019
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January 31st, 2019 at 1:16:25 AM permalink
Unless they changed it from G2E, the mini royal gets shafted in the progressive.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GalaxyGamingLV/status/1050075001393635328
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January 31st, 2019 at 10:15:43 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Unless they changed it from G2E, the mini royal gets shafted in the progressive.





Thanks. The Rampart pay table is a bit different.
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January 31st, 2019 at 4:09:01 PM permalink
God I love new games. They're the best thing about this site. I even enjoy examining crappy new games (see Wheel of Fun), like a movie buff who's acquired a taste for low budget horror films.

This game, however, seems pretty good. Good enough to where I hope someone crunches the numbers over how to play your two up-cards against the dealer's one. On the other hand, I've found that games and side bets by Galaxy usually tilt towards the house too much for my tastes.
Last edited by: Gialmere on Jan 31, 2019
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January 31st, 2019 at 5:02:35 PM permalink
Our friends at Galaxy Gaming were kind enough to let me see their math report. I still plan to analyze it, but here is a preview based on the BMM math.

For the Rampart pay table with six decks, the house edge is 2.57% and the element of risk is 0.93%.

The Rampart Big Hand Bonus house edge with six decks is 7.46%.

The report does not mention the Progressive bet. That is probably something they carried over from another game.
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January 31st, 2019 at 7:39:56 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Our friends at Galaxy Gaming were kind enough to let me see their math report. I still plan to analyze it, but here is a preview based on the BMM math.

For the Rampart pay table with six decks, the house edge is 2.57% and the element of risk is 0.93%.

The Rampart Big Hand Bonus house edge with six decks is 7.46%.

The report does not mention the Progressive bet. That is probably something they carried over from another game.



Their progressive system is standalone and has it's own math. Casino can make some choices, but it's usually about a 20% or 25% hold.


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February 1st, 2019 at 7:44:21 PM permalink
I have the start of a Super Three Card page. So far it just has the rules.
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February 4th, 2019 at 3:07:35 PM permalink
I have taken my Super Three Card page about as far as I can, based on the BMM report kindly shared with me by Galaxy.

As always, I welcome all comments and questions.
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February 4th, 2019 at 4:48:12 PM permalink
I'm guessing that a strategy section will be added later if the game takes hold. Any offhand advise for now? Such as play a Q/7 or better but fold if the dealer's upcard beats your non-paired high card (assuming no possible straight, flush or straight flush)?
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February 4th, 2019 at 7:30:27 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

I'm guessing that a strategy section will be added later if the game takes hold. Any offhand advise for now? Such as play a Q/7 or better but fold if the dealer's upcard beats your non-paired high card (assuming no possible straight, flush or straight flush)?



Yes, I'll write up a strategy if the game talks hold. Most new games never get far. Your hypothetical situation is a tough call, I don't know what to say there.
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