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100xOdds
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June 26th, 2019 at 9:40:19 AM permalink
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Relative to the Ante bet, the variance is 24.40 and the standard deviation is 4.94. Similar to video poker.


geez.. so variance like Double Bonus?

and if im doing $25 ante/$25 blind for $50 total bet, then that's equivalent to max betting $10 denom in vp? :o
if so, then $1000 bankroll isnt enough per session with that variance! wow...
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June 26th, 2019 at 1:42:32 PM permalink
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lost $1500 (two $750 sessions) playing $15 ante + $15 blind. (no Trips bet)
couldnt win a hand to save my life. :(

yeah, i know.. walk away when you're not having fun.
and i should have gotten up when the dealer won 6 straight right off the bat including cracking my KK with a straight. (he had 59)
but but but i just sat down...
ugg....



I played at that level for a week at Atlantis (Bahamas), and at 11AM on the last day of the trip I was up $50... and then I lost $900 in about an hour and a half while waiting for the airport shuttle. It was so fast, the guy next to me went to the bathroom, came back and asked if I'd colored up to leave.
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EALaurance
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June 27th, 2019 at 2:09:51 AM permalink
A local casino offers the option to play multiple spots (up to 3). There are a few requirements, min. bet increases as you play more spots, you have to play these spots blind (your second and/or third hand), and must bet 3-4x. Could a person calculate the house edge by only using only the top of the chart provided in your analysis? When I try this and total only the hand combos listed with "Large" I end with a return of -70.35%.
miplet
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June 27th, 2019 at 10:04:02 AM permalink
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A local casino offers the option to play multiple spots (up to 3). There are a few requirements, min. bet increases as you play more spots, you have to play these spots blind (your second and/or third hand), and must bet 3-4x. Could a person calculate the house edge by only using only the top of the chart provided in your analysis? When I try this and total only the hand combos listed with "Large" I end with a return of -70.35%.

About 44% according to the math I did in 2013 found here.
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gordonm888
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June 27th, 2019 at 10:21:27 AM permalink
Quote: EALaurance

A local casino offers the option to play multiple spots (up to 3). There are a few requirements, min. bet increases as you play more spots, you have to play these spots blind (your second and/or third hand), and must bet 3-4x. Could a person calculate the house edge by only using only the top of the chart provided in your analysis? When I try this and total only the hand combos listed with "Large" I end with a return of -70.35%.



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About 44% according to the math I did in 2013 found here.



I am confused by the meaning of "playing a blind hand" in UTH. Does that mean that you make the required up-front bets and then bet 3-4X your ante before seeing the first two cards? That is nuts, why would anyone do this? Is miplet's -44% calculated as a fraction of the ante bet or as a fraction of the total amount bet before seeing the cards?
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EALaurance
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June 27th, 2019 at 10:26:35 AM permalink
Thanks! So I’m on track but need to add the hands that’s are listed “fold” into proper categories.
EALaurance
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June 27th, 2019 at 10:29:26 AM permalink
you’re right about a blind hand. The 44% is of total wagers I believe.
miplet
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June 27th, 2019 at 2:38:11 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Quote: miplet

About 44% according to the math I did in 2013 found here.



I am confused by the meaning of "playing a blind hand" in UTH. Does that mean that you make the required up-front bets and then bet 3-4X your ante before seeing the first two cards? That is nuts, why would anyone do this? Is miplet's -44% calculated as a fraction of the ante bet or as a fraction of the total amount bet before seeing the cards?

It’s just the Ante. If you bet $1 on the Ante, $1 on the Blind, and $4 on the Play, you should expect to lose about 44¢.
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June 27th, 2019 at 7:28:11 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

lost $1500 (two $750 sessions) playing $15 ante + $15 blind. (no Trips bet)
couldnt win a hand to save my life. :(

yeah, i know.. walk away when you're not having fun.
and i should have gotten up when the dealer won 6 straight right off the bat including cracking my KK with a straight. (he had 59)
but but but i just sat down...
ugg....



Been there, play enough it happens. I really like the hand shuffle since the player can cut the cards. You can’t blame having a bad hand or tough beat on the dealer if you were the one cutting the cards.
100xOdds
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September 9th, 2019 at 3:44:00 PM permalink
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Quote: 100xOdds

lost $1500 (two $750 sessions) playing $15 ante + $15 blind. (no Trips bet)
couldnt win a hand to save my life. :(

yeah, i know.. walk away when you're not having fun.
and i should have gotten up when the dealer won 6 straight right off the bat including cracking my KK with a straight. (he had 59)
but but but i just sat down...
ugg....



Been there, play enough it happens. I really like the hand shuffle since the player can cut the cards. You can’t blame having a bad hand or tough beat on the dealer if you were the one cutting the cards.


$500 bankroll, 15 ante& blind.
6 sessions and never been up once.
Down $2500.

I know the shuffler is random but when the dealer gets a straight flush twice in an hr...

I've switched strategy to quitting for the session when the dealer wins 4 in a row.
Mathematically, i know it doesn't matter.
But I'm not having any fun when he's on a win steak.
And when you're not having fun, quit...
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