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September 30th, 2018 at 4:00:07 PM
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Assuming Babs and Miplet are right about the rules, which seems logical, then here are my results of the base game.
I find the advice given in the help files of raising on phoenix-panda-rabbit or better to be correct.
The house edge, measured as the ratio of the expected loss to the Ante bet only, is 3.70%, as shown in the table above.
The player will raise 81% of the time, for an average final wager of 2.8094425. The element of risk is thus 1.32%.
Event | Pays | Combinations | Probability | Return |
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Win with three dragons | 22 | 685,860 | 0.001494 | 0.032863 |
Win with three phoenixes | 9 | 1,095,395 | 0.002386 | 0.021471 |
Win with other three of a kind | 6 | 12,597,063 | 0.027436 | 0.164614 |
With with pair of pandas or better | 3 | 90,652,512 | 0.197436 | 0.592307 |
Other win | 2 | 113,820,564 | 0.247894 | 0.495789 |
Push | 0 | 5,423,068 | 0.011811 | 0.000000 |
Fold | -2 | 87,494,400 | 0.190558 | -0.381115 |
Loss | -3 | 147,380,738 | 0.320986 | -0.962959 |
Total | 459,149,600 | 1.000000 | -0.037030 |
I find the advice given in the help files of raising on phoenix-panda-rabbit or better to be correct.
The house edge, measured as the ratio of the expected loss to the Ante bet only, is 3.70%, as shown in the table above.
The player will raise 81% of the time, for an average final wager of 2.8094425. The element of risk is thus 1.32%.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
October 1st, 2018 at 6:28:25 AM
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My WoO page on Dragon Poker is up.
As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and corrections.
As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and corrections.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
October 1st, 2018 at 7:40:26 AM
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I played the practice game and my experience was same as BBB. A lot of losing.
I like my games to have a little more strategy.
I like my games to have a little more strategy.
October 1st, 2018 at 9:33:11 AM
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Quote: FinsRuleI played the practice game and my experience was same as BBB. A lot of losing.
I like my games to have a little more strategy.
To play the devil's advocate, the structure and experience in this game mimics that of Three Card Poker, and that game made out pretty well.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
October 1st, 2018 at 9:38:07 AM
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I have played the practice game for a while. It is too simple for my taste. It is like three card poker with:
- more frequent pairing
- no straights or flushes
- one wild card (that can only pair)
- less frequent folding
- more bonus payout hands
Like 3CP, it has one dumb-cluck decision. Overall, it is boring.
- more frequent pairing
- no straights or flushes
- one wild card (that can only pair)
- less frequent folding
- more bonus payout hands
Like 3CP, it has one dumb-cluck decision. Overall, it is boring.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
October 1st, 2018 at 10:06:15 AM
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I'm going to try to play it at the Rio when I get half a chance to go out that way. As was said earlier, I think it is easier to protect a game, intellectually, with unique cards or other equipment. I don't like jokers though. Had they consulted me, I'd have recommended against it. Plus the thing about Fire and Water Dragons is rather confusing.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:34:28 PM
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Quote: WizardTo play the devil's advocate, the structure and experience in this game mimics that of Three Card Poker, and that game made out pretty well.
I agree, but I don’t like playing 3 card for more than 10 minutes either.
I dont think most people enjoy learning new games, so I am kinda bearish on this.
I like Pai Gow poker and tiles.
My ultimate game would be Pai Gow Draw poker, but I don’t have the time or energy to sell it to casinos.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:44:07 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleI like Pai Gow ... tiles.
I think that is all you need to say. I prefer the thinking games too.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
October 1st, 2018 at 3:46:06 PM
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Thanks Wizard for the analysis of Dragon Poker. The Dragon Bonus payouts is "to 1" instead of "for 1" (the bet stays on the layout) so the HA is more around 15% instead of 24%.
October 1st, 2018 at 3:57:08 PM
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Quote: Settle813Thanks Wizard for the analysis of Dragon Poker. The Dragon Bonus payouts is "to 1" instead of "for 1" (the bet stays on the layout) so the HA is more around 15% instead of 24%.
You're welcome. Thank you for that correction. I played until I had a winning Tiger Bonus hand and can confirm that you're right.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.