February 3rd, 2018 at 11:32:06 PM
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In theory, if you watch/play long enough and always count the 10s, wouldn't there would be a situation in which there would be all 10s left in an 8 deck shoe (even before hitting the cut card)? You could then make a max bet on tie, knowing it will come up 0-0. In an 8 deck shoe there are 128 10-value cards. I would think on rare occasions this situation would actually happen and you would know you're going to win. I know the general consensus is bac isn't worth counting, but this is a GUARANTEED win if you ever see it. Anybody know the probability or frequency of seeing this situation?
February 4th, 2018 at 6:26:57 AM
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Quote: camz1969In theory, if you watch/play long enough and always count the 10s, wouldn't there would be a situation in which there would be all 10s left in an 8 deck shoe (even before hitting the cut card)? You could then make a max bet on tie, knowing it will come up 0-0. In an 8 deck shoe there are 128 10-value cards. I would think on rare occasions this situation would actually happen and you would know you're going to win. I know the general consensus is bac isn't worth counting, but this is a GUARANTEED win if you ever see it. Anybody know the probability or frequency of seeing this situation?
You can read this about the Tie Bet in general:
https://www.888casino.com/blog/baccarat-tips/beating-the-baccarat-tie-bet
Eliot Jacobson, Ph.D. shows that there's almost nothing there on 8-to-1 pays. Almost nothing on 9-1, either, but more than nothing.
Here is another one about Ties and your specific scenario:
https://www.888casino.com/blog/baccarat-tips/baccarat-tie-bet-flimflam/
If you scroll roughly three-quarters of the way down that page, what you will find is that all-0's occur with this frequency based on the cutoffs:
12 Cards- 1 in 2,866,173 Hands
14 Cards- 1 in 30,104,148 Hands
16 Cards- 1 in 404,381,500 Hands
18+ Cards- Not even expected to happen once in 20,000,000 shoes.
I guess what I'm saying is get comfortable, because you're going to be watching Baccarat for awhile.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
February 5th, 2018 at 9:10:59 AM
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Plus EV for sure........if your time is worthless.