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mrsuit31
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May 12th, 2017 at 6:39:57 AM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

Gamblit employee/rep onboard all week attempting to explain/schill the game to passengers



I still think its going to be a major challenge to get a game started without a schill on both the electronic and physical table game (I know the articles make it seem that a gamblit employee will always be required to stand on a game for player protection purposes). Unless multiple people walk up together, how do you start a family pot based game? And in the event multiple friends walk up together, how long will a group of friends play hoping to see a prize that exceeds the total buy in for the players.

Once the novelty of these games being god's gift the the gaming industry wears off, I just don't see how these will able to maintain the amount of floor space we've been seeing devoted to these machines. Especially if they only have a 30-45 hand per hour pace, I don't see how these can generate more revenue than a bank of 4 video poker or slot machines, at a $2 or $5 wager amount, capped at four players.

But I am seemingly alone in my thoughts Gamblit raises another 25 million
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100xOdds
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May 12th, 2017 at 8:01:42 AM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

Game was sited on the Ruby Princess cruise ship last week. Same 4 player all digital version of the game. Located in the casino bar adjacent to casino, they likely removed a high top bar table to create the space. Gamblit employee/rep onboard all week attempting to explain/schill the game to passengers on the three separate sea days fo the voyage. Not a lot of action, but the ship does seem like the perfect spot for a novelty game machine like this.

I spent most of my time at the Poker Pro automated 1-2NL game...boy was that game soft and as Romes/PG know, if I am feeling like I have a winning game at a NL table, real poker players would clean up. But you have to endure game pace of 22 HPH in a poker game...talk about slow.


when I sailed Princess earlier this decade, rake was 10% up to $7, which is better than NCL's 10% up to $25.
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Paradigm
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May 16th, 2017 at 7:49:05 AM permalink
Like the 6:5 on every BJ table on the ship, rake is absurd and got worse since you sailed last...was 15% up to $8 on the Poker Pro table!!
mrsuit31
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May 16th, 2017 at 10:16:56 AM permalink


The interview shows that Caesar's plans to carve out segments of the casino for "the casino of the future" to attract groups of millennials...
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ronnief
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May 16th, 2017 at 10:40:27 AM permalink
Not exactly sure how this game works. If me and a friend want to kill a little time , Could we sit an an empty table and just decide we would only go for a straight flush each ? Would take a while for one of us to get a straight flush, only going for the highest straight flush possible with out starting card. And half the time the other player would still be alive. Cheap nad friendly gambling. Also a cheap way to wait for a fish to show up. Once one of us is in the lead, not that hard to protect a partners hands by blocking the fish. Sure looks like collusion could easily be possible
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May 16th, 2017 at 11:11:19 AM permalink
I mentioned this to Axel privately, but I'd like to do an informal dinner somewhere on the South Strip this weekend and then play some Gamblit. Anyone interested?
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May 16th, 2017 at 11:48:03 AM permalink
Quote: ronnief

Not exactly sure how this game works. If me and a friend want to kill a little time , Could we sit an an empty table and just decide we would only go for a straight flush each ? Would take a while for one of us to get a straight flush, only going for the highest straight flush possible with out starting card. And half the time the other player would still be alive. Cheap nad friendly gambling. Also a cheap way to wait for a fish to show up. Once one of us is in the lead, not that hard to protect a partners hands by blocking the fish. Sure looks like collusion could easily be possible



No, there are a finite number of cards available for draw. Once they're exhausted, the game ends and the hands are compared. If you don't have 5 cards, your best hand from the 4 or fewer cards is used.

Collusion via blocking is very possible though.

No fish are going to show up at this game. Right now, it looks like a table to sit at and have drinks. If two people are sitting down, nobody is going to come over, just as a nobody is going to pull up to a high bar table that two people he doesn't know are sitting at. They really whiffed on physical design as far as I'm concerned.

Seriously, if you tried to sit at this game when two people you don't know are there, I'd be surprised if they didn't look at you funny and ask what you're doing.
mrsuit31
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May 16th, 2017 at 12:43:45 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

Seriously, if you tried to sit at this game when two people you don't know are there, I'd be surprised if they didn't look at you funny and ask what you're doing.



The thing that stuck out to me from the video was that the interviewee keeps saying that this will allow groups of friends to come out and play together and socialize. My followup to that statement would be (what I believe someone else had already said in a previous post in this thread), "how long will groups of friends sit and bleed off that rake?".

I understand that there is potential for larger prizes, but then people are really just sitting and waiting for one of the larger prizes to show its face. In which case this really just turns back in to a team slot machine.

As always, just my thoughts. I know the Wiz has been and continues to be an advocate, as was the case we discussed when the physical table debuted at the table games conference...

And for the record, I'm a millennial, the specific target for these games...
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IndyJeffrey
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May 16th, 2017 at 8:10:46 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I mentioned this to Axel privately, but I'd like to do an informal dinner somewhere on the South Strip this weekend and then play some Gamblit. Anyone interested?



Sounds like fun. Wish I was in town this weekend. I cannot wait to read the results of the play.
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May 16th, 2017 at 8:15:10 PM permalink
Quote: mrsuit31

The thing that stuck out to me from the video was that the interviewee keeps saying that this will allow groups of friends to come out and play together and socialize. My followup to that statement would be (what I believe someone else had already said in a previous post in this thread), "how long will groups of friends sit and bleed off that rake?".



Agree. Why would I want to play against my friends -- we could invent a similar game at home with no rake. Then again, I may not want to play 'against' my friends, but I would want to play 'with' my friends. Also, why would I want to play 'against' strangers? If you cannot recognize the fish...

The thing about table games is it's you vs casino, no?

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