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August 23rd, 2010 at 9:02:43 AM permalink
I just finished a page on Triple Attack Blackjack. Before I make live links to it, please consider this a preview opportunity. I welcome comments and corrections.
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August 23rd, 2010 at 9:24:43 AM permalink
If you made a second & third attack bet & want to double do you double all three of your bets? How about splits?
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August 23rd, 2010 at 9:56:14 AM permalink
This is a new gane? I seem to recall playing this somewhere a few years ago. My wife liked it, I didn't. Maybe I'm thinking of something else....


Although it should be obvious that if split aces draw another ace that you split them, your section on split aces doesn't mention that, or what to do if you draw an ace after maxing out the splits - if there is a max.
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August 23rd, 2010 at 10:05:54 AM permalink
Quote: Lucyjr

If you made a second & third attack bet & want to double do you double all three of your bets? How about splits?



Yes, you would double and split all of them. I suppose you could not double all of them, effectively doubling for less, but much like regular blackjack, if doubling is the right play, then you should do it the full way. I'll reword the rules to make that more clear.


Quote: DJTeddyBear

This is a new gane? I seem to recall playing this somewhere a few years ago. My wife liked it, I didn't. Maybe I'm thinking of something else....


Although it should be obvious that if split aces draw another ace that you split them, your section on split aces doesn't mention that, or what to do if you draw an ace after maxing out the splits - if there is a max.



I'm quite sure it is new. You may be thinking of Triple Shot or Three Way Action, which were war-blackjack-poker combinations.

Yes, it is conceivable you might run out of re-splits and be faced with standing or doubling a soft 12. I forgot to put a row in my table for that. Until I do, I would use the soft 13 row.
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August 23rd, 2010 at 10:36:21 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I just finished a page on Triple Attack Blackjack. Before I make live links to it, please consider this a preview opportunity. I welcome comments and corrections.



One very minor correction: In your strategy table, the typo A,A vs A "S" should be "H".

Here's an interesting question: Since you cannot hit split aces, would doubling down some split-ace hands for less ($1) against the dealer's A be enough to make splitting aces vs A more favorable than just hitting the pair? (Your comment about doubling for less made me think of this.)
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August 23rd, 2010 at 11:27:45 AM permalink
Doubling for less? For as little as $1?

That is NOT the same thing as a hit - you only get one card!
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August 23rd, 2010 at 11:52:32 AM permalink
I pretty much liked your writeup, except the update should be August 23, 2010 (you have 2009). I read the entire article and understood it.

The rules seemed quite complex and I think it's a poorer choice than Blackjack Switch overall, kind of like a mix between Spanish 21, switch, and nothing I've ever seen before.
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August 23rd, 2010 at 1:26:21 PM permalink
"If the dealer has a 10 or ace up, then he will offer insurance. Winning insurance wagers pay 5 to 1 for a suited blackjack, and 2 to 1 for a non-suited blackjack."
Insurance offered on 10 up-probable typing error??
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August 23rd, 2010 at 1:32:26 PM permalink
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"If the dealer has a 10 or ace up, then he will offer insurance. Winning insurance wagers pay 5 to 1 for a suited blackjack, and 2 to 1 for a non-suited blackjack."
Insurance offered on 10 up-probable typing error??

Since tens are removed from the deck, that lowers the chance of a BJ with an ace showing, but INCREASES with a face showing.

Bearing in mind that insurance is a sucker bet, and there's a sucker born every minute, that rule might not be a typo. (Except to say that the Wiz' review should say "Face or Ace up" rather than "Ten or Ace up".)
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August 23rd, 2010 at 1:56:58 PM permalink
Gosh, Why would dealer offer insurance on face-up? Insurance pays 2.75 to 1.
Is it for dealer to have a 20?
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August 23rd, 2010 at 2:17:19 PM permalink
Some good comments there, thanks. I fixed the AA vs A to say H. Yes, I meant to say the dealer only offers insurance with an ace. This isn't the MGM in Macau where they offer it with a 10 up too -- and still only pay 3 to 2. Actually, I heard they finally quit doing that.

That is a good question about doubling for less after splitting aces. I did the analysis assuming it was not allowed. However, I'll inquire about it. The dealer at Harrah's said, incorrectly, that I could hit to split aces.
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August 23rd, 2010 at 3:03:10 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

This is a new gane? I seem to recall playing this somewhere a few years ago. My wife liked it, I didn't. Maybe I'm thinking of something else....

Double Attack Blackjack has been in AC sparingly for the last couple of years. There's a table at Harrah's right next to the Craps pits. Maybe that's what you are thinking about?
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August 23rd, 2010 at 9:05:35 PM permalink
If you can double for less after splitting aces, then it's like hitting aces(one time only) after split.. I doubt that..
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August 23rd, 2010 at 9:14:30 PM permalink
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If you can double for less after splitting aces, then it's like hitting aces(one time only) after split.. I doubt that..



At the Kewadin casinos in northern Michigan they also have the rule about stand or double after splitting aces. They also allow doubling for less, as long as it is for at least $5. There is more about it in my blackjack appendix 20.
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August 24th, 2010 at 3:34:28 AM permalink
1. A new game is any game that has less than 50 installs, even if it's a few years old, and is still trying to get a foothold. Sometimes this can take a few years accounting for bad breaks in its distribuition/patent/finance history (e.g., Three Card Poker and EZ Baccarat - both now wildly successful). Raving Consultants uses this criterion. < 50 installs, and <5 years on a patent = new game, basically. This is because with less than 50 install, not a lot of gamblers had really (- or fairly) seen it, and it can later break out like three card poker did, or EZ Baccarat, both great successes now on an "re-introduced" new game.

2. Best Person to ask about Triple-Attack BJ? Robert Saucier of Galaxy Gaming, or Sean, at GG. HE should be a member of this site, as anyone who runs a gaming distribution company with production products should. If he's not, he needs a poke in the ass. I'll email him. He'll see his products discussed right and left, and can answer questions about it. Shame on him for his absence.
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August 24th, 2010 at 4:28:24 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

At the Kewadin casinos in northern Michigan they also have the rule about stand or double after splitting aces. They also allow doubling for less, as long as it is for at least $5. There is more about it in my blackjack appendix 20.



Wow, thanks a lot for the information. Nice to know that we double for less on s18 vs higher dealer upcard..
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