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VladAlex1
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December 4th, 2015 at 6:00:17 PM permalink
Please play the pilot demo: http://www.playholdemvideopoker.com
It works best on desktop, Google Chrome.

My concept could be applied to the many Texas Hold’em variations, include Ultimate Texas Hold’em.

Some features of the demo include:

1. The option to play against 5, 10 or 21 Dealers
2. Turbo mode button - to toggle card animation (on or off)
3. “Show/Hide Details” button - to review each hand result
4. “Info” button
5. Set your Luck
6. Change table layout color


Your opinion about this game will be greatly appreciated!

Thank you,

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December 4th, 2015 at 6:40:05 PM permalink
Quote: VladAlex1

Please play the pilot demo: http://www.playholdemvideopoker.com
It works best on desktop, Google Chrome.

My concept could be applied to the many Texas Hold’em variations, include Ultimate Texas Hold’em.

Some features of the demo include:

1. The option to play against 5, 10 or 21 Dealers
2. Turbo mode button - to toggle card animation (on or off)
3. “Show/Hide Details” button - to review each hand result
4. “Info” button
5. Set your Luck
6. Change table layout color


Your opinion about this game will be greatly appreciated!



Thank you,

Vlad



Hi, Vlad!

Pretty interesting concept. I do believe I would play it. Still thinking about it.

Couple of glitches at the moment, mentioned not to criticize but hopefully help. Playing via Chrome as suggested.

In the picture below, hand 1 is dealing but not registering win/loss. This has been consistent, not just this hand.

Also below, there are 19 pushes in the hand because of the board's FH, along with 2 losses for 4OAK. The computer awarded $900 for the $100 Trips bet plus the 8:1 bonus win, and only pushed the one hand for $100, showing a win of $1000. It should have shown (based on how it was paying before with hand 1 disabled) $2700 for the win, with 18 pushes returned plus the bonus.

Good luck with this!




Edit: This hand (below) also did not pay correctly (overpaid):

10 winning hands, and on 6 player wins the dealer did not qualify:

6 ante push, return bet @ 25 = 150
4 ante wins, pay bet @ 50 = 200
10 blind push, return @ 25 = 250
10 play wins, pay bet @ 50 = 500
Total = $1100

However, win is at $1200. The only way I see that happens is if the game is paying the blinds on the ante wins, but I guess it could be something else.

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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December 4th, 2015 at 6:55:51 PM permalink
Do you have the intellectual property rights to UTH for this version?
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:07:37 PM permalink
Vlad,

I've removed the duplicate posts, and left this thread up for the moment. I may move it to the game inventor's corner; it's more appropriate there. Please don't keep posting the same thing in different threads and forums; it's against the rules. Warning.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:09:37 PM permalink
Nice implementation, but this was done for blackjack decades ago.
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:15:51 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Vlad

That's a good question. Did Vlad post this, or did Alex post this? That name makes me think that two people are sharing a common account.
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:24:03 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Nice implementation, but this was done for blackjack decades ago.



Yeah, but this is poker, and I think it has a place among the players. UTH is dull on a computer and deals too fast; this would change that. Helps smooth the variance. And it's in the style of the pros where they run the hand multiple times. I think it could be huge.
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:26:03 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

That's a good question. Did Vlad post this, or did Alex post this? That name makes me think that two people are sharing a common account.



Single IP, but could be 2 people posting or sharing....any of these accounts can be.
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:39:02 PM permalink
Teliot,
You can find answer at the end of the INFO "I" page it is made by my Son Alex
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:46:43 PM permalink
I got feedback from Ernie Moody
"It look pretty cool thanks for sending."
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:48:50 PM permalink
You are right
I am the inventor of Multi-hand electronic blackjack game
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:57:31 PM permalink
Thanks for all work to catch bugs
Please Check "Show details"
and try Turbo Off
This is a Pilot Demo
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:58:01 PM permalink
Quote: VladAlex1

I got feedback from Ernie Moody
"It look pretty cool thanks for sending."



How cool you heard from him!! A good luck charm for the game, maybe? :)

I've audited a few more hands, and I think the 2nd demo pic I showed above, the bug analysis should be that hand 1 is being processed, it's just that the graphics aren't displaying.
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:59:03 PM permalink
Thanks
Agreed!
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December 4th, 2015 at 8:00:15 PM permalink
Quote: VladAlex1

Thanks
Agreed!



Nothing gets me going more than good creative juice. I think this is brilliant in concept and very marketable. Thanks for making my night!
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December 4th, 2015 at 8:04:19 PM permalink
It is a patent pending
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December 4th, 2015 at 8:13:53 PM permalink
I'm glad you're enjoying this game! Thank you beachbumbabs!
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December 4th, 2015 at 8:23:04 PM permalink
Quote: VladAlex1

Thanks for all work to catch bugs
Please Check "Show details"
and try Turbo Off
This is a Pilot Demo



Show details is an excellent add-on. Nice to get analysis of each hand, just like if dealer was there to explain. I think it might be more intuitive if, any hand the customer had a question about, they could mouseover or touch for that hand's analysis, but I'm guessing that's easy enough to map on the screen down the road.

Turbo off is a little too laggy for me. I had to go to the info screens to fully understand what you were doing. You were showing that each dealer was virtually dealing the player's and the same 5 cards to the board, pulling them out of each individual deck, then each dealer got his own set of cards from his own deck that were different (but could be found in other dealers' hands). I think your animation of this doesn't quite put this point across by itself, but conceptually I really like that it's unique decks rather than multiple hands from the same deck. Probably required you to do it that way for the integrity of the HE calculations, since this way each hand is not dependent and the game is head's-up for however many games.

(Edit: lag and animation much improved in 5 hand mode. Perhaps my computer's not RAMmy enough to do 21 at once but likes 5.)

The music is cute. Nice option, changing background screen color; helps people play longer to reduce eyestrain, too! lol...
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December 4th, 2015 at 8:25:37 PM permalink
Try different layout color.
Blue, Red, Gold!
Click at the top left corner.

Turn On/Off background music at the top Right corner

10 hand is my favorite
Turbo off slows game but it is nice to to observe cards fly
Thanks to All for play and review!
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December 4th, 2015 at 8:44:44 PM permalink
Thanks beachbumbabs for the feedback. A moseover popup is certainly a good option to display the deatils of each hand result.
The flying cards animation was a challenge to implement, and can definetly be improved. The current version of the game was meant to demonstrate the concept of the game. There is a lot of coding that would need to be done to make it run smooth on more browsers and platforms. If we see that there is a lot of interest in this game, then we will make sure to continue developing this game.
Most importan for us that the concept is warmly accepted by experts!
Thanks
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December 4th, 2015 at 8:57:53 PM permalink
Quote: VladAlex1

Thanks beachbumbabs for the feedback. A moseover popup is certainly a good option to display the deatils of each hand result.
The flying cards animation was a challenge to implement, and can definetly be improved. The current version of the game was meant to demonstrate the concept of the game. There is a lot of coding that would need to be done to make it run smooth on more browsers and platforms. If we see that there is a lot of interest in this game, then we will make sure to continue developing this game.
Most importan for us that the concept is warmly accepted by experts!
Thanks
Vlad and Alex



Honestly, if I were a distributor, I'd be all over this. It has several juicy psychological aspects that will keep people coming back. I hope you get a big response.
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December 4th, 2015 at 10:10:52 PM permalink
Excellent concept. Would make UTH, Three Card Poker, Pai Gow Poker and other table games much more playable in video form.

We'll done.


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December 5th, 2015 at 9:36:49 AM permalink
TZCore13,
Thanks for the comments
I invented a novel game “Three Card Multi-Hand Video Poker”
Please have a look!
Published on Aug. 6 2015
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20150221185.pdf
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December 5th, 2015 at 11:15:18 AM permalink
Got one more feedback from the Industry expert
Timothy Nottke
Inventor, Video Poker Developer, Casino Games Developer

Regarding
http://www.playholdemvideopoker.com/

Thanks for the link. I have started playing it and really like it. I think it is a very good game. Have you had the chance to present it or market it to any gaming companies? I could see it in the casinos. Best of luck with it!
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December 5th, 2015 at 12:31:56 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Yeah, but this is poker, and I think it has a place among the players. UTH is dull on a computer and deals too fast; this would change that. Helps smooth the variance. And it's in the style of the pros where they run the hand multiple times. I think it could be huge.

It might have been huge if it could have been protected, but in view of the prior art (including the OP's own patents), I don't see much chance of this getting an issued patent. No patent, no investment, no commercialization, no money to be made. To paraphrase Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank, "I don't care if it's a great game. I care about MAKING MONEY."

How could you argue that "playing against multiple hands" is non-obvious for house-banked poker games when (a) it's already been done for house-banked blackjack games, and (b) there are so many other card game methods that disclose applications to both poker *and* blackjack? There would have to be something else non-obvious about that combination or how it works in order for it to get anywhere, and I don't know what that would be.

It might be a great game, but from an investment standpoint I'd be worried. There's no question the OP knows what he's doing from a game design standpoint (look at his LinkedIn profile) but I'm not optimistic about the ROI of developing this product given my current estimation of the likelihood of obtaining IP. But if he has a deal cooking that doesn't require perfected IP to make money, that's a different story.
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December 5th, 2015 at 2:32:18 PM permalink
Stacy,
" I don't see much chance of this getting an issued patent."
Here is a link to the fresh Granted MH VBJ patent
Multi-hand electronic blackjack game
https://www.google.com/patents/US7824254

I hope UTH-VP is novel and patentable as well
Lets be positive and keep a positive, high "Olympian Gaming" spirit

Thanks,
Vlad
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December 5th, 2015 at 3:45:34 PM permalink
Quote: VladAlex1

Here is a link to the fresh Granted MH VBJ patent
Multi-hand electronic blackjack game
https://www.google.com/patents/US7824254

I wouldn't call 5 years ago "fresh granted". That's well into young adulthood for a patent and a lot has happened in the interim.

As for being positive, I wouldn't recommend anything else for a long shot like developing and licensing a successful game. If your evaluation of the likelihood of success is different than mine, by all means go for it.
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December 5th, 2015 at 4:16:47 PM permalink
"“ROI of developing this product”
This is extremely low budget project. No math require.
Pilot demo coding was developed in few weeks by my son Alex on weekends or after business hours.
The matter is I am happy to design & develop enjoyable game.

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December 5th, 2015 at 6:07:07 PM permalink
I wish all Video Poker games came with a "Set your luck" option.

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December 5th, 2015 at 7:16:29 PM permalink
Stacy,
Thank you for the good wishes!
To get a patent is a tough task!
To get a good game even tougher!
We’ll try our best for the short and for the long run and give a fun and joy to players!
For now we are very happy that the concept is accepted
I believe with a patent or not this concept has a future.

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December 5th, 2015 at 7:25:03 PM permalink
Deucekies,

Congratulations!
We have to resize “Total Win” display for the astonish $1,225.800 win!
Keep going! Turn ON music on the top right corner!
Have FUN!

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