Quote: KeyserI heard, second hand an absurd comment that playing with an edge is illegal in Indiana.
The only place it's possibly "illegal" is in an Indian casino.
According to this article, they can ban card counters ala Nevada. But you wouldn't be prosecuted for card counting.
http://www.smsm.com/blogs-litigationblog,Indiana_Supreme_Court_Says_Card_Counters_Can_Be_Banned
As for VP, no electronic game can have a long term payback >100% in Indiana, so grinding options like 10/7 DB (100.17%) and Full Pay Deuces (100.76%) are also unavailable.
Quote: tringlomaneGenerally speaking, it's mostly like Nevada legally. Probably less opportunities though.
According to this article, they can ban card counters ala Nevada. But you wouldn't be prosecuted for card counting.
http://www.smsm.com/blogs-litigationblog,Indiana_Supreme_Court_Says_Card_Counters_Can_Be_Banned
As for VP, no electronic game can have a long term payback >100% in Indiana, so grinding options like 10/7 DB (100.17%) and Full Pay Deuces (100.76%) are also unavailable.
This doesn't make card counting illegal. No one's going to jail for card counting. But thye can ban you for it, same as they can ban you if they don't like your face or you're not wearing pants (which comes close to happening at my casino all too often.)
Quote: hwccdealerThis doesn't make card counting illegal. No one's going to jail for card counting. But they can ban you for it, same as they can ban you if they don't like your face or you're not wearing pants (which comes close to happening at my casino all too often.)
Wait, I'm confused! Which comes close to happening at your casino: management banning someone because they don't like his face, or people not wearing pants? :)
Quote: JoemanWait, I'm confused! Which comes close to happening at your casino: management banning someone because they don't like his face, or people not wearing pants? :)
I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say for not wearing pants.
Quote: RSI'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say for not wearing pants.
It really depends on the person (and the pants they're not wearing) if management likes that or not.
Its way past 1984.
The thought police will nab you, be careful what thoughts you think :-)
Big brother is watching you.
Quote: tringlomane
As for VP, no electronic game can have a long term payback >100% in Indiana, so grinding options like 10/7 DB (100.17%) and Full Pay Deuces (100.76%) are also unavailable.
I agree, I think that is what was probably meant. It is illegal to offer games of 100% or greater.
Quote: hwccdealerThis doesn't make card counting illegal. No one's going to jail for card counting. But thye can ban you for it, same as they can ban you if they don't like your face or you're not wearing pants (which comes close to happening at my casino all too often.)
This is an important distinction. Being banned from a casino is no different than being banned from Chuck E Cheese. The management has decided that you are not welcome on the property. That's their right as a business owner. That doesn't mean you did anything illegal, just that they don't want you on their property. Just like if you ask someone to leave your house. They have to go. Doesn't mean they did anything illegal.