Dispell the 'Voo-Doo' Myth Baccart Challenge!!!
Quote: Baccaratfrom79I already Talked to my attorney and he agreed to hold/escrowed my $400.00 and yours. AoS will have the cash---I Already said that.
Uh oh: trouble with the missus?
Ace, aka "my attorney" flenses and debones orcas in divorce court.
Quote: MrVUh oh: trouble with the missus?
Ace, aka "my attorney" flenses and debones orcas in divorce court.
Now there's a testimonial!
Quote: aceofspadesNow there's a testimonial!
No problems whatsoever. Only trouble is, too much work! Short handed by a couple guys now. Weather is better and numerous job sites have to get regulatory closure. Trying to get caught up by next week.
Why not consider doing the monkey monkey bet immediately after the WoVCon shindig on Sat May 16th?
Quote: AcesAndEightsSo the original deal was 2 out of 2 monkeys, right? So two consecutive 10s or face cards (I'm assuming when the side he's on is winning, and 2 0s will maintain that result). If I'm doing my math right...assuming infinite deck since it's 8 decks and just to make it easier:
16 monkeys in a deck, so 16/52 chance to get one...0.307692308
0.307692308*0.307692308 = .094674556
Yep looks like about a 90% shot for the monkey-opposer. I would do this for cash all day long, but I don't want to bow to the monkey if he pulls it off.
Also, it would be pretty easy to count down the face cards in a shoe, although with a 10% chance off the top, it would take a LOT of non-face cards to turn this one around. I'm not going to do the math on how many, but it would be pretty rare I'm guessing.
It's obvious what his intention here is, and why he's only willing to put $400 on the line when he's betting thousands per hand at baccarat. He's hoping he lucks out and hits that 9.5% chance so he can come on here and say his thing works.
If he REALLY believed it worked he would put any amount of money down for it.
Either way, I'm sure $400 for him is worth the entertainment value alone, so have at it!
Quote: Baccaratfrom79The very next card. In any scenario 4 cards will already be out, the players will need a card and the banker might also. The card I need my little monkey's power for might be for us or for the other side. Yes and two instances. Two separate wagers. Could be the same shoe or different shoes. Same night. 1 night. Also in baccarat a 10-pip card is also considered a monkey, btw.
On 2 separate wagers the monkey will assist to pull a 'monkey' card (any face or pip 10). When both times a monkey card comes out because of my little monkey guy, I prevail. If for some strange unknown flaw or reason he doesn't perform, you prevail. Period.
Double the check the math on that one, use your calculator, fingers or toes. That is the wager. Period. Done. FINAL. If I could say it in trig, calculus or anything else I would.
Quote: Baccaratfrom79On 2 separate wagers the monkey will assist to pull a 'monkey' card (any face or pip 10). When both times a monkey card comes out because of my little monkey guy, I prevail. If for some strange unknown flaw or reason he doesn't perform, you prevail. Period.
That's an odd way of looking at it.
Edit: If my math [that I did in my head kind of] is correct, it'd show that a SINGLE bet if at least 1 of 2 cards is a Ten....let's assume 1/3 of the cards are Tens (it's really 30.xx%). I do believe, after re-reading Bac79's post, this is what his bet is. [Well, he's betting that it'll happen TWICE, not just ONCE, ie: he can do it for 2 separate hands, not just a single hand]. But for a single hand, the possible ways are something like:
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A '0' is a non-Ten where a '1' is a Ten. There are 4 ways to make no tens and 5 ways to have at least 1 Ten.
So, it looks like (if there were 33% tens), Bac79 would have a 5/9 chance of success on a given hand of pulling at least 1 Ten.
But since the bet happens twice, we now have to figure out EITHER the chance Bac79 wins both or loses at least one. His chance of winning one hand is 5/9 = 55.55%. His chance of winning both hands is 0.5555^2 = 30.8%.
So really, it looks like Bac79 has about a 30% chance of success. Well, actually, it's a bit lower than that, since there aren't 33% tens in a shoe, there are 30.769% tens in a shoe.
But my math could be a little shaky, especially on this kinda stuff. Never been too good at statistics. :(
So the bet is for cash right?Quote: Baccaratfrom79Very very simple, I never changed it except went from a $400 dinner anywhere (non comp) dinner in Vegas (I pay the bill) to cash. The rest is the same as the quote below. Only the math-a-lites changed it up several times. That is the wager, plain and simple. Done with this math stuff at a game that is random with patterns and trends and a touch of luck. LOL to the max.
If you win, Ill gladly pay $400 in dinner if you prefer that over cash.
FYI assuming this bet actually takes place and I have action, Ill share.
Quote: sc15It's obvious what his intention here is, and why he's only willing to put $400 on the line when he's betting thousands per hand at baccarat. He's hoping he lucks out and hits that 9.5% chance so he can come on here and say his thing works.
If he REALLY believed it worked he would put any amount of money down for it.
Either way, I'm sure $400 for him is worth the entertainment value alone, so have at it!
Agreed.
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Quote: Baccaratfrom79On 2 separate wagers the monkey will assist to pull a 'monkey' card (any face or pip 10). When both times a monkey card comes out because of my little monkey guy, I prevail. If for some strange unknown flaw or reason he doesn't perform, you prevail. Period.
Double the check the math on that one, use your calculator, fingers or toes. That is the wager. Period. Done. FINAL. If I could say it in trig, calculus or anything else I would.
To cut through the crap: Two times during a game of Baccarat you will announce that the next card out of the shoe is gonna be a 10 / 0 value. You must be correct both times to win. Otherwise you lose. The bet is even money. How many shoes maximum until you must have made both predicitions? I suggest three.
Cash only. How much more action will you take?
Quote: RomesI didn't catch if you ever said you'd be willing to come to the WOV Spring Fling? May 16th a bunch of members are meeting up in Vegas, many will be there days before or after. I will be there, and would love to make as many wagers against your monkey as I can. Pun intended.
First of all, I seriously doubt with the way the top 6 that appear to rule and run the board (and the majority of the rest of you are absolutely 100% math-smart, math knowledgeable and extremely intelligent with the mathematics of the game [no pun intended]) would welcome me....so thanks but not going to alter or add another trip to walk in a place with a sign on me saying 'kick me--kick me', aint that dumb!!!!.....
Second of all, there is no way I could turn back around a couple weeks later and make another trip to Vegas. I don't gamble for a living like the majority on this board. Sorry.
Now, go ahead and turn all that around guys and tell me how I don't have the guts to face you, etc.
I hope you understand that my comments are directed at your message, not at you personally.
You coming to this board with your "monkey monkey" mantra is like a guy walking into a place kicking convention wearing a "kick me" sign.
In the end I hope we can all have fun, and maybe learn something.
Quote: CanyoneroDo you still take action Bacc? I take it that everybody agrees with Mission holding the money?
To cut through the crap: Two times during a game of Baccarat you will announce that the next card out of the shoe is gonna be a 10 / 0 value. You must be correct both times to win. Otherwise you lose. The bet is even money. How many shoes maximum until you must have made both predicitions? I suggest three.
Cash only. How much more action will you take?
Bacc are you ok with my terms? How much action can you give on top on the $ 400 with Axelwolf?
If I win, I will give it to my favorite charity "Shriners Hospitals for Children" or "Make-A-Wish", either one. Be glad to post receipts.
Quote: Baccaratfrom79Axelwolf, and Maxpen is what it looks like.
If I win, I will give it to my favorite charity "Shriners Hospitals for Children" or "Make-A-Wish", either one. Be glad to post receipts.
So no more action?
Baccaratfrom79 you're starting to sound like a teenage girl, nobody likes me, i'm not wanted, i'm not appreciated .Quote: Baccaratfrom79First of all, I seriously doubt with the way the top 6 that appear to rule and run the board (and the majority of the rest of you are absolutely 100% math-smart, math knowledgeable and extremely intelligent with the mathematics of the game [no pun intended]) would welcome me....so thanks but not going to alter or add another trip to walk in a place with a sign on me saying 'kick me--kick me', aint that dumb!!!!.....
Second of all, there is no way I could turn back around a couple weeks later and make another trip to Vegas. I don't gamble for a living like the majority on this board. Sorry.
Now, go ahead and turn all that around guys and tell me how I don't have the guts to face you, etc.
Tropicana when I am there, the date is posted in trip reports. Might have been deleted but there are several that quote me all the time, so I wager the original is there. This time very doubtful I take the time to take pics and post them. Last time wasn't appreciated, just got blasted. Maybe......nah that's okay.
COME ON GROW SOME THICK SKIN. People are heckling you about the monkey and various other small aspects.
I'm fairly certain you wouldn't be unwelcome at WOV that's just ridiculous..
Quote: Baccaratfrom79Simply wouldn't fit in with a bunch of professors and math genus's....I agree and praise you I get berated again???
You only get berated because of threads like this, in which you're pushing something that even someone with little knowledge of math knows is false.
If you had an object that could influence the outcome of the game the casino wouldn't allow you to have it.
He is not made up, proved that by his picture. Could understand if it was a story and a fictional character, but he is really existent.Quote: AxelWolf[heckling you about the monkey..
Quote: Baccaratfrom79He is not made up, proved that by his picture. Could understand if it was a story and a fictional character, but he is really existent.Quote: AxelWolf[heckling you about the monkey..
B79 would be fine at the WOV get togethers, I am sure.
B79, you were a favorite poster on another board...don't let them chase you away...they aren't that bad! Heck, some on the board even believe in stranger things than a magical monkey...like Dice Control!!
Quote: aceofspadesI cannot wait until the end of April in vegas!!!
I don't say this to many, but you can pet the monkey [Note=I didn't say my monkey, I said, 'the monkey']....
That little guy has whatever magical powers he has, got the shoe to produce what we needed. This is a fact, as hard as it is to believe but 100% true.
Quote: Baccaratfrom79I don't say this to many, but you can pet the monkey [Note=I didn't say my monkey, I said, 'the monkey']....
That little guy has whatever magical powers he has, got the shoe to produce what we needed. This is a fact, as hard as it is to believe but 100% true.
Sure, that's why you won't bet 100K on it.
Who said he was made up? Seriously you need to go back and re read your posts. You are going from a seemingly level headed guy to someone who sounds crazy talking all kinds of superstitious mumbo jumbo. Are you trying to sabotage the bet or something? If not, don't turn this all dark or some pitty party.Quote: Baccaratfrom79He is not made up, proved that by his picture. Could understand if it was a story and a fictional character, but he is really existent.Quote: AxelWolf[heckling you about the monkey..
WOV is not just made up with maths geniuses and professors, I'm certainly neither and many others are not. I just use logic and avoid superstitious beliefs excuse us/me if we are not all sporting lucky monkeys at the baccarat table and doubling down hard 14 Vs the dealers 6 (or whatever you encouraged AOS to do)
I'm not saying this just to encourage you because your a big boy( Maybe ). I'm saying that so your misconception and comments don't discourage others.
Quote: RonCQuote: Baccaratfrom79He is not made up, proved that by his picture. Could understand if it was a story and a fictional character, but he is really existent.Quote: AxelWolf[heckling you about the monkey..
B79 would be fine at the WOV get togethers, I am sure.
B79, you were a favorite poster on another board...don't let them chase you away...they aren't that bad! Heck, some on the board even believe in stranger things than a magical monkey...like Dice Control!!
Or advantage play.
Quote: djatcQuote: RonCQuote: Baccaratfrom79He is not made up, proved that by his picture. Could understand if it was a story and a fictional character, but he is really existent.Quote: AxelWolf[heckling you about the monkey..
B79 would be fine at the WOV get togethers, I am sure.
B79, you were a favorite poster on another board...don't let them chase you away...they aren't that bad! Heck, some on the board even believe in stranger things than a magical monkey...like Dice Control!!
Or advantage play.
Like card counting? LULz everyone knows you can't card-count nowadays with those 6 deck shoes - that's like 400 cards!
Quote: RonCQuote: Baccaratfrom79Quote: AxelWolf Heck, some on the board even believe in stranger things than a magical monkey...like Dice Control!
Quote: RSHis post on the top of the second page of this thread (or the other one, can't remember which thread).....he said he needs to pull 1 ten for either of the 2 cards. At least that's how I interpreted it. Still rather ambiguous as to what is actually required to happen to win/lose the wager.
It's not ambiguous at all if you have ever played baccarat.
Player gets 2 cards
Banker gets 2 cards
During the reveal of the player cards, if the first card is a good card, like an 8 or 9, then B79 MAY decide to employ his monkey to help reveal the second card to be a '0'.
Alternatively, B79 may decide to use the monkey during the dealer's reveal, to ensure a '0' is the second card revealed.
Finally, when either the player or the banker are getting a third card, B7 MAY decide to use the monkey to ensure a 'o' card is the 3rd card dealt. B79 would use the monkey to ensure a '0' card comes up so that his bet will win, be it a Player bet or a Banker bet.
B79 will use his monkey on 2 separate occasions during the session. If a '0' card is turned up on each occasion, B79 wins. If a non '0' card is turned up on either occasion, then B79 loses.
How is this ambiguous?
I assume any card counting or tracking isn't allowed. because the point of the bet is to prove the magic monkey works.Quote: sc15There IS a 9.5% chance he wins the wager..
It's like splitting aces and getting tens on both..
I assume there's a time or shoe limit as well.
Quote: AxelWolfI assume any card counting or tracking isn't allowed. because the point of the bet is to prove the magic monkey works.
I assume there's a time or shoe limit as well.
Presumably this will happen over 1 play session (a few hours).
And card counting/tracking isn't going to be helpful for B79, because the odds of him ever becoming a favorite on the bet is basically 0.
