Baccarat no commission with tie bet
February 28th, 2015 at 12:07:24 AM
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I have a old game with a new twist.
Standard 8 deck baccarat
with no comission on the banker is you bet at least $5 on the tie.
Table limits are $25-$300
I figure I have some kind of edge?
Standard 8 deck baccarat
with no comission on the banker is you bet at least $5 on the tie.
Table limits are $25-$300
I figure I have some kind of edge?
February 28th, 2015 at 4:04:34 AM
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If the Tie bet pays 8:1, the breakeven point is passed with a $59 banker bet and $5 tie bet.
| Bet (Banker + Tie) | Edge | Avg win/hand |
|---|---|---|
| $25 + $5 | -1.364% | -$0.41 |
| $50 + $5 | -0.183% | -$0.10 |
| $60 + $5 | +0.035% | +$0.02 |
| $75 + $5 | +0.260% | +$0.21 |
| $100 + $5 | +0.492% | +$0.52 |
| $125 + $5 | +0.635% | +$0.83 |
| $150 + $5 | +0.732% | +$1.13 |
| $175 + $5 | +0.802% | +$1.44 |
| $200 + $5 | +0.855% | +$1.75 |
| $225 + $5 | +0.896% | +$2.06 |
| $250 + $5 | +0.929% | +$2.37 |
| $275 + $5 | +0.957% | +$2.68 |
| $300 + $5 | +0.979% | +$2.99 |
February 28th, 2015 at 6:33:27 PM
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You're probably getting that from Washington state Pai Gow. Waive the commission when you bet $5 on the Fortune bonus. The problem is that, even removing commission all the time, Pai Gow still has some house advantage at face value. The Banker bet has player advantage without the commission, so $5 on the tie isn't enough to offset that.
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March 16th, 2015 at 10:55:23 AM
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Is this a real game offered somewhere? Or just a hypothetical?
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March 16th, 2015 at 11:46:19 AM
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Quote: DeucekiesYou're probably getting that from Washington state Pai Gow. Waive the commission when you bet $5 on the Fortune bonus. The problem is that, even removing commission all the time, Pai Gow still has some house advantage at face value. The Banker bet has player advantage without the commission, so $5 on the tie isn't enough to offset that.
Aren't you required to bet the $1 progressive too? Could a sworn that's what the snoqualmie people told me, but I may have misheard.
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March 16th, 2015 at 1:46:25 PM
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Quote: ahiromuAren't you required to bet the $1 progressive too? Could a sworn that's what the snoqualmie people told me, but I may have misheard.
Some houses may require that. Not all of them. Some don't require ANY side bet to waive commission.
Casinos are not your friends, they want your money. But so does Disneyland.
And there is no chance in hell that you will go to Disneyland and come back with more money than you went with.
- AxelWolf and Mickeycrimm
March 16th, 2015 at 1:50:02 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsIs this a real game offered somewhere? Or just a hypothetical?
I doubt it.. this would be the easiest AP play ever.
You literally have to do nothing to earn the $3 / hand.
Even a ploppy could figure out the advantage.
March 16th, 2015 at 4:42:09 PM
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In the hypothetical, the "House" would need a limit on the main wager to Tie ratio. For simpler computations 6 to 1 is EV -0.993%.
edit: sorry, forgot conditions... 8-deck and 8 to 1 on ties.
edit: sorry, forgot conditions... 8-deck and 8 to 1 on ties.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
