ShineyShine
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November 2nd, 2014 at 12:44:04 AM permalink
Don't know how it is in the U.S, but I say the number and the colour when dealing. That's how we were trained. I've heard that some casinos that are fussy with procedures insist on the odd/even, but have never used that myself, and don't think it's necessary. Odd/even is obvious, but the colours aren't to anyone not familiar with roulette, so justifies being announced.

Announcing the number is helpful for the players, and acts as a double check for the dealer and inspector (if there is one) that the dealer isn't going to clear the wrong number. So i'd advise going with that.
ShineyShine
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November 2nd, 2014 at 1:04:16 AM permalink
And although it's second nature now, as a trainee i remember it was helpful announcing the colour, so as to know which losing colour to take when clearing the layout. If they're not experienced roulette dealers, they'll probably stop and double check what colour they're supposed to clear if they don't announce the color. And then after a while, you just know which colour they are without having to think about it, cos you've said, for example, "26...Black" so many times.
TriathlonTodd
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January 26th, 2015 at 5:26:01 AM permalink
I think it is good customer service to call it out for roulette. Required? That would be the house's decision. I personally make a point to say the number then the color. I think the even/odd thing is just plain silly, so I don't do that. If a player is too drunk to figure out if a number is even or odd, then they have absolutely no shot of being able to tell if they are getting paid correctly.

Depending on the mood of the table, like in craps, there are a couple opportunities to change up your announcements. I'll say things like "double deuce" for 22, or "7, lucky 7". If the table is really having a good time, and your floorperson is in a good mood, you can start doing craps calls when something 1-12 hits.
vendman1
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January 26th, 2015 at 6:18:25 AM permalink
I've heard a lot of variation on this. Some dealers will call out....17/Black and Odd. Some say nothing and just put down the marker, and everywhere in between. I don't think there is a "rule" per se. At least it's not enforced in any casino I've frequented. I think it would be good customer service. It may also attract players if done in a fun way. It takes no time and the dealer can do it while starting to rake in the losing bets, so it doesn't slow down the game any.
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January 26th, 2015 at 7:56:56 AM permalink
Quote: TriathlonTodd

I think it is good customer service to call it out for roulette. Required? That would be the house's decision. I personally make a point to say the number then the color. I think the even/odd thing is just plain silly, so I don't do that. If a player is too drunk to figure out if a number is even or odd, then they have absolutely no shot of being able to tell if they are getting paid correctly.

Depending on the mood of the table, like in craps, there are a couple opportunities to change up your announcements. I'll say things like "double deuce" for 22, or "7, lucky 7". If the table is really having a good time, and your floorperson is in a good mood, you can start doing craps calls when something 1-12 hits.

If I was playing, I would prefer less dumb announcements (Craps talk is really annoying, especially on Roulette ) and for them to get that dam marker off the table as fast as possible, so I can grab my chips.

There nothing worst than when a player knows all the craps sayings/longo and boastfully keeps rambling it off at the table.
I'm not talking about a few college kids having fun. It's the guys who are serious who think they are craps gurus.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
TriathlonTodd
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January 26th, 2015 at 1:34:31 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

If I was playing, I would prefer less dumb announcements (Craps talk is really annoying, especially on Roulette ) and for them to get that dam marker off the table as fast as possible, so I can grab my chips.

There nothing worst than when a player knows all the craps sayings/longo and boastfully keeps rambling it off at the table.
I'm not talking about a few college kids having fun. It's the guys who are serious who think they are craps gurus.


There's only a few times when it might be useful. You do have to be able to read the table and the players' moods. Most of the time you just go for standard stuff. A key part of the customer service of being a dealer is figuring out the level of interaction your players want.
Dieter
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January 26th, 2015 at 1:51:32 PM permalink
Quote: TriathlonTodd

There's only a few times when it might be useful.



Well, in Riva's case, it's a very short duration charity gambling event for low stakes. Most of the patrons are not serious gamblers.

It's not a standard 1 wheel / 1 layout / 1 dealer table - 1 wheel, 2 layouts, 3 dealers (1 on the wheel, 1 on each layout).

In this case, the dealer working the wheel makes the call so the layout dealers don't have to take their eyes off the layouts, and to hawk the game to passerby.

In a modern regular casino, particularly one with a history screen, there's little advantage to verbally calling the result.
May the cards fall in your favor.
TriathlonTodd
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January 26th, 2015 at 7:04:13 PM permalink
I think we were talking about different things. I was referring to playfully using craps calls as hardly ever being used.

Despite announcing each number, I find that I am asked a ton of times each night what the call was. It comes up because the casino is nosy with the music or other players/distractions. Most boards don't read the number immediately. It takes a while to process. So, I obviously don't wait for it to show up on the board before sweeping the layout. Of course, if the players would wait the two seconds from when I announce it, to when the marker is down on the layout, that would answer their question for them. I don't mind at all. I'm the one that has pay attention to what is going on, my players don't. They are there to have a good time.
HornHighYo11
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January 26th, 2015 at 7:47:40 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

...and for them to get that dam marker off the table as fast as possible, so I can grab my chips.



I played roulette once at the Aria in 2012. I got my chips and put my first $15 on 5-Red. Was standing and fiddling with my chair to get comfortable and it hit! I learned about "dolly etiquette" the hard way, trying to rake the chips in. A guy sitting betting Black and losing several times in a row before I joined said "nice hit..." with the rest under his breath.
AxelWolf
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January 26th, 2015 at 10:00:40 PM permalink
Quote: HornHighYo11

I played roulette once at the Aria in 2012. I got my chips and put my first $15 on 5-Red. Was standing and fiddling with my chair to get comfortable and it hit! I learned about "dolly etiquette" the hard way, trying to rake the chips in. A guy sitting betting Black and losing several times in a row before I joined said "nice hit..." with the rest under his breath.

I usually only play Roulette with a match play or when theres something good promotional wize.

When I'm using match plays.... I want to get the bet down and everything over ASAP before the pit boss notices me. Having to wait with that match play sitting under my chips, even 10 seconds longer than normal makes me impatient. My reaction is to grab my winnings as soon as it hits the table.

Hell, I have been known to take my bet chips on table games even before I have been paid, usually when I'm doing socializing gambling and I'm distracted. (thats always fun because now MR pit boss has to come over)
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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