One Up Blackjack?
June 5th, 2010 at 7:10:12 PM
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Saw this game at MGM. Didn't quite understand it. Played a few hands and lost them all.
Basically, that game is a blackjack game, but one black king was preprinted at the table for each player. The players only got one card and got to add that to the 10 already on board.
The dealer had that king also, and got one card only as well.
There was a bunch of other rules, which I didn't understand. I found no description of that game whatsoever from the internet. Seemed to be a game with a high house edge; I regret playing it.
Basically, that game is a blackjack game, but one black king was preprinted at the table for each player. The players only got one card and got to add that to the 10 already on board.
The dealer had that king also, and got one card only as well.
There was a bunch of other rules, which I didn't understand. I found no description of that game whatsoever from the internet. Seemed to be a game with a high house edge; I regret playing it.
June 5th, 2010 at 8:58:18 PM
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I have not heard of it either. I'll check it out my next trip out that way.
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June 17th, 2010 at 4:44:21 PM
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Found the brochure from my travel book. I scanned it. How can I put it into the board?
June 17th, 2010 at 8:19:09 PM
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So there was no hitting/standing/busting? It was just one card each????
Why not just play Casino War?
Why not just play Casino War?
June 17th, 2010 at 9:38:52 PM
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It has hitting/standing/busting.. however it had a rule which says if the dealer has an ace of spades it's an automatic push for all blackjacks (and a loss to everything else), and if the dealer has an ace which is not a spade and the player has an ace of spades it is paid 2:1, plus a few arcane rules which I didn't quite understand.
June 18th, 2010 at 4:16:06 AM
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I have enough trouble playing games I understand. It sounds like this is casino war with an automatic 10 kicker for everyone.Quote: JaywallDidn't quite understand it. Played a few hands and lost them all. There was a bunch of other rules, which I didn't understand.Seemed to be a game with a high house edge; I regret playing it.
June 18th, 2010 at 4:34:31 AM
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Quote: ruascottSo there was no hitting/standing/busting? It was just one card each????
Why not just play Casino War?
I think he said you only "get one card" meaning you don't get two to start your hand like normal. Not that the K and your one card is your final hand. The fact that the dealer always has a ten showing seems to make it that you'd hit every 2-6 and stand every 7-10. Not too interesting, unless both dealer cards are exposed. That would be interesting. Would Double Exposure be worth it (without pushes losing) if the dealer (and you) were assured of a ten every time?
June 18th, 2010 at 4:51:22 AM
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First, you'd have to get it on the internet somewhere. Most ISPs offer web storage. Put it there, then use [img=url] to post it.Quote: JaywallFound the brochure from my travel book. I scanned it. How can I put it into the board?
Personally, I have my own website, so I put my images on a side directory, and reference those.
I agree. Very simple / boring strategy - unless the dealer shows his other card.Quote: cclub79...seems to make it that you'd hit every 2-6 and stand every 7-10. Not too interesting, unless both dealer cards are exposed. That would be interesting.
Either way, I think I'd pass...
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June 18th, 2010 at 6:36:46 AM
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Quote: JaywallIt has hitting/standing/busting.. however it had a rule which says if the dealer has an ace of spades it's an automatic push for all blackjacks (and a loss to everything else), and if the dealer has an ace which is not a spade and the player has an ace of spades it is paid 2:1, plus a few arcane rules which I didn't quite understand.
This would seem like a player advantage rule to me. The rule when the dealer has a ace of spades is the same outcome as traditional blackjack. But when the player gets the spade he gets paid out more than traditional b/j, plus the player wins the tie.
June 19th, 2010 at 10:43:58 AM
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Quote: JaywallFound the brochure from my travel book. I scanned it. How can I put it into the board?
You can email it to me and I can post it for you. miplet@yahoo.com
This game was analyzed by some people on the greenchip message board of bj21.com. You have to have a paid subscription to read it, so I won't be posting their analyis. I'm only partway done with mine.
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June 21st, 2010 at 7:56:27 AM
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Ok, my infinite deck analysis is complete. Rules: six 40 card decks. Face cards are removed. Player Spade BJ pays 2:1, pushes Dealer Spade BJ. Player Non-Spade BJ pays 1:1, pushes dealer BJ.
Basic stategy is to hit 16 or less and stand on 17 or more. Split 2's and 3's. (Don't split 3s if you lose 2 bets to Dealer BJ, but still split 2s.)
I get a infinite deck house edge of 0.982124978 %. (1.158338073 % if you lose 2 bets on Dealer BJ when you split 2s)
My analysis is higher by .02% than that of a bj21.com poster, probibly because of how we treated splits.
Basic stategy is to hit 16 or less and stand on 17 or more. Split 2's and 3's. (Don't split 3s if you lose 2 bets to Dealer BJ, but still split 2s.)
I get a infinite deck house edge of 0.982124978 %. (1.158338073 % if you lose 2 bets on Dealer BJ when you split 2s)
My analysis is higher by .02% than that of a bj21.com poster, probibly because of how we treated splits.
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June 21st, 2010 at 8:32:01 AM
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How do you split? If you get dealt a 2, then hit and get another 2, are you now allowed to split your 14 into two 12s?
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June 21st, 2010 at 8:39:04 AM
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Quote: dwheatleyHow do you split? If you get dealt a 2, then hit and get another 2, are you now allowed to split your 14 into two 12s?
That's my understanding.
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June 21st, 2010 at 8:46:40 AM
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Really? That's kinda wierd.
But it makes me wonder....
If you draw a 6 to a 16, can you split those?
But it makes me wonder....
If you draw a 6 to a 16, can you split those?
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June 21st, 2010 at 8:54:50 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearReally? That's kinda wierd.
But it makes me wonder....
If you draw a 6 to a 16, can you split those?
Nope, you can only split 2 to 5.
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:56:58 PM
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I just played it yesterday with croupier and his wife. Here are the rules, my strategy, and my house edge. I welcome all comments and corrections.
Rules
The game follows conventional blackjack rules, except as noted below.
Strategy
The player should hit on 16 and less, and stand on 17 or more. In addition, the player should split 2's and 3's.
House Edge
Assuming an infinite deck, and infinite re-splitting, I get a house edge of 0.94%.
Rules
The game follows conventional blackjack rules, except as noted below.
- The game is played with six 40-card decks. Each deck has all face cards removed, so only A-10 remain.
- The player and dealer both start with the king of spades as the first card. It is printed on the felt for each player spot and the dealer.
- If both player and dealer have a blackjack in spades, then the player's bet will push.
- If the player has a blackjack in spades, and the dealer does not, then the player's bet will pay 2-1.
- If the player has a blackjack in hearts, clubs, or diamonds, and the dealer has any blackjack, then the player's bet will push.
- If the dealer has any blackjack, and the player does not, then the player's bet will lose.
- Dealer always peeks for blackjack.
- The player may hit or stand, as in conventional blackjack.
- The player may double down after two cards (including the king of spades).
- If the player's second and third card (counting the king of spades as the first card) are the same rank, then the player may split them into two hands, both starting with a king of spades. For example, if the player's second and third cards were both twos, then the player could split them into two hand of 12 each.
- I do not know the maximum splits allowed, but this analysis assumes an unlimited number.
Strategy
The player should hit on 16 and less, and stand on 17 or more. In addition, the player should split 2's and 3's.
House Edge
Assuming an infinite deck, and infinite re-splitting, I get a house edge of 0.94%.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 29th, 2010 at 3:11:28 PM
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So basically, it's a regular blackjack game with the one card everyone hates to see as the dealer's upcard...every time.
What genius greenlighted this thing?
What genius greenlighted this thing?
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:22:27 PM
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Quote: OneAngryDwarfSo basically, it's a regular blackjack game with the one card everyone hates to see as the dealer's upcard...every time.
Yup, that is about it. The player gets to start with a 10 too, of course. The slogan on the rule card is "The World's Easiest Blackjack Game." You have to give them that, it is an easy game to play.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
July 1st, 2010 at 2:18:23 AM
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Quote: WizardYup, that is about it. The player gets to start with a 10 too, of course. The slogan on the rule card is "The World's Easiest Blackjack Game." You have to give them that, it is an easy game to play.
Hmmm. I guess thinking about it from that angle, it's not a bad way to introduce a novice player to blackjack. The house edge is lower than a 6:5 game, at least.
Two more questions I thought of, purely out of curiosity:
1. I assume non-spaded blackjacks pay only even money?
2. If the above is the case, is it possible to hit or double blackjacks? For example, if I got an Ace, could I hit and potentially get another Ace, then split the hand to make two 21s?
"I believe I've passed the age/of consciousness and righteous rage/I've found that just surviving was a noble fight...
I once believed in causes too/I had my pointless point of view/And life went on no matter who was wrong or right..." --Billy Joel
July 1st, 2010 at 5:40:09 PM
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Quote: OneAngryDwarf
Two more questions I thought of, purely out of curiosity:
1. I assume non-spaded blackjacks pay only even money?
2. If the above is the case, is it possible to hit or double blackjacks? For example, if I got an Ace, could I hit and potentially get another Ace, then split the hand to make two 21s?
1. Correct.
2. I suppose so, but it would be ill-advised. The expected value is higher to accept the win.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
