Riva
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August 4th, 2014 at 11:58:29 AM permalink
A local person just donated a 9' casino-grade roulette table and 32" wheel to our school to use at our charitable gaming events. It is really fancy. Also included in the set is an electronic number display board that is fully functional. So, do these boards really do what people say they do, specifically: increase player time-at-table and increase wagering? With setting up and tearing equipment down so frequently, I'm afraid the thing might be more of a hassle than it's worth. Thoughts?

With the new wheel and table, I thought we should order some additional balls. In the catalog, the supply company offers balls made of plastic, a synthetic ivory and, Teflon. Thinking that a roulette ball is just a roulette ball, I called to ask if there was a difference. The person responded that a Teflon ball is preferred by casinos because it does not bounce around the bowl as much and drops more quickly, thus speeding up play/more spins per-hour. I am all about anything that allows us to get more hands, spins, rolls etc. per-hour, no matter how much or little. In an 8-hour day, time is our worst enemy. Silly question but.. do Teflon balls really drop faster? (they are definitely more expensive)

As always, thanks.
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August 4th, 2014 at 12:07:33 PM permalink
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A local person just donated a 9' casino-grade roulette table and 32" wheel to our school to use at our charitable gaming events. It is really fancy. Also included in the set is an electronic number display board that is fully functional. So, do these boards really do what people say they do, specifically: increase player time-at-table and increase wagering? With setting up and tearing equipment down so frequently, I'm afraid the thing might be more of a hassle than it's worth. Thoughts?



They certainly increase visibility (which would attract people) and display number history, which would attract people who believe in hot/cold streaks, lucky numbers, etc. Wager size though? Probably not. If your table is usually full, then I'd give a pass on the board if setting it up is going to take a lot of effort.

Regarding the ball-- with no actual experience in this field, I would've thought a teflon ball would be SLOWER on the grounds that it would have less friction and therefore preserve its velocity to circle the wheel more times before dropping.
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August 4th, 2014 at 12:17:10 PM permalink
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They certainly increase visibility (which would attract people) and display number history, which would attract people who believe in hot/cold streaks, lucky numbers, etc. Wager size though? Probably not. If your table is usually full, then I'd give a pass on the board if setting it up is going to take a lot of effort.

Regarding the ball-- with no actual experience in this field, I would've thought a teflon ball would be SLOWER on the grounds that it would have less friction and therefore preserve its velocity to circle the wheel more times before dropping.



Just found this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpH7sC_if0U
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August 4th, 2014 at 12:26:46 PM permalink
Huh. Interesting. So non-stick Teflon pans aren't that slick, in a relevant fashion. Sorry about that.
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August 4th, 2014 at 12:45:19 PM permalink
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Huh. Interesting. So non-stick Teflon pans aren't that slick, in a relevant fashion. Sorry about that.



I read somewhere on this site where the average roulette game has about 38 spins per-hour. We are nowhere near that, mostly on account that our volunteer dealers always spin the wheel somewhere in excess of the speed of sound. If I could slow down wheel speed to where it should be and, squeeze in an extra 10 spins per-hour using a Teflon ball, I'd be a very happy camper.
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August 4th, 2014 at 1:24:57 PM permalink
If alot of action is taking place while the wheel is spinning and spinning, that is fine; what you don't want is some guy spinning wheel so fast that it takes forever but no action is taking place because all bets have been made eons ago.
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August 4th, 2014 at 1:31:49 PM permalink
The displays will only register a result if the wheel and ball are at a specific speed range. Therefore this might help for training.

However, in a live situation, newbie dealers will have a habit of looking at the display rather than the wheel for the result, allowing an AP opportunity for past posting.
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August 4th, 2014 at 2:12:31 PM permalink
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However, in a live situation, newbie dealers will have a habit of looking at the display rather than the wheel for the result, allowing an AP opportunity for past posting.



That's reason enough for me not to use it. We don't have a lot of cheating but, it occurs. Besides, it now allows me to put heavy-duty folding legs on the table, making it easier to set-up/tear-down.
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September 10th, 2014 at 1:42:54 PM permalink
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included in the set is an electronic number display board that is fully functional. So, do these boards really do what people say they do, specifically: increase player time-at-table and increase wagering? With setting up and tearing equipment down so frequently, I'm afraid the thing might be more of a hassle than it's worth. Thoughts?



One of the local casinos changed out all their carpeting recently.

To do this, they moved their roulette tables (with the displays).

They did it wrong, and blew out both of them. Several thousand a piece in repair parts*, plus a specialized tech to come and fix it (my understanding is that their normal vendor tech couldn't do it, and they had to bring in a specialist).

Now, when I say "they did it wrong", "they" is the in-house techs. These guys move slot machines all the time. They fix their innards. It was a big project, and they moved around a few thousand machines over the course of a few weeks. They know about anti-static precautions, and how to follow procedures for electrics and electronics. They know not to drop things. They took down the first table+display, found that it wasn't working, checked the procedures and precautions, and then broke the second one, too.

So yeah, they're great, but don't break it.


*The rumor I overheard was "main boards", but apparently it was only the history display that was broken - if I recall, the table had a backlight under the felt that also displayed the result, and that kept working. The system now seems to have a different pole display - flat screen video instead of an LED number board.
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