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April 12th, 2010 at 10:42:31 AM permalink
I would like to start a thread which talks about which Las Vegas Casinos rates the odds bets in craps. If we get enough data, perhaps the Wizard can add this to his Vegas Craps Review page.

Here are the ones I know about and have been to recently:

1. Green Valley Ranch - last there in March, rated the full odds bet (3x, 4x, 5x) for my pass line and each come bet
2. Stratosphere - last there in December, rated 2x odds.
3. Sahara - last there in December, stated that they would rate some % of the odds bet, but declined to say what it would be. Seems to depend on the pit boss
4. Mandalay Bay, MGM, Luxor, NYNY, Excaliber - last there in March, claimed that they did not rate the odds bet at all but perhaps because of my tips had my rating inflated when I left the table each session.

Any other casinos?
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April 12th, 2010 at 3:32:57 PM permalink
According to RaleighCraps, Harrah's casinos may rate your odds, or at least give you an inflated rating if you do all the right things, etc.
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April 12th, 2010 at 3:36:16 PM permalink
Quote: gambler


Any other casinos?



I've heard the same about #1, 2, and 4. I have also heard the Venetian/Palazzo rates on the odds, but assumes a very low theoretical (expected loss to total bet). You can also see from my review that the Fitzgerald's counts the odds.
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April 12th, 2010 at 6:22:34 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

According to RaleighCraps, Harrah's casinos may rate your odds, or at least give you an inflated rating if you do all the right things, etc.



Clarification: I am fairly certain Harrah's does not rate on your odds. I do think you can get a slightly higher rating by doing small things.
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August 3rd, 2010 at 6:35:10 PM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

Quote: teddys

According to RaleighCraps, Harrah's casinos may rate your odds, or at least give you an inflated rating if you do all the right things, etc.



Clarification: I am fairly certain Harrah's does not rate on your odds. I do think you can get a slightly higher rating by doing small things.



A pit boss at Bally's (who also plays don't) told me that not only do they include odds in the rating, but that the system also favors don't bettors because of the larger amounts they lay. He then proceeded to show me the key areas on the computer screen that mattered.
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August 9th, 2010 at 3:50:16 PM permalink
Gambler - play your craps in Atlantic City. The same action in AC gets me a rating 4-5 times what I get rated at on the Strip. And yes, I do make a point of throwing a 5-10 dollar tip at the dealers when coloring up in AC. It works wonders. To them I am a $500 bettor, to the suits on the Strip, a $100 guy.
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August 9th, 2010 at 4:26:20 PM permalink
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Gambler - play your craps in Atlantic City. The same action in AC gets me a rating 4-5 times what I get rated at on the Strip. And yes, I do make a point of throwing a 5-10 dollar tip at the dealers when coloring up in AC. It works wonders. To them I am a $500 bettor, to the suits on the Strip, a $100 guy.



In my experience, I can confirm this. They do rate odds, but the problem is Harrah's is very stingy with table game comps overall. 10 minutes at the $5 Wheel of Fortune slots gets me as much as 4 hours at the Craps table playing $10 Pass/Come with 5x odds (Usually a couple of hundred on the table at any time).
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August 10th, 2010 at 5:56:31 AM permalink
Quote: cclub79

In my experience, I can confirm this. They do rate odds, but the problem is Harrah's is very stingy with table game comps overall. 10 minutes at the $5 Wheel of Fortune slots gets me as much as 4 hours at the Craps table playing $10 Pass/Come with 5x odds (Usually a couple of hundred on the table at any time).

Has anyone ever played at the non-Harrah's properties -- Borgata, Tropicana, Hilton, Resorts or the Trumps? What is your experience with rating/treatment there?
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August 10th, 2010 at 1:46:53 PM permalink
Borgata rates it all, and is loose with comps. Dunno about Trump or the others.
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