RoyalBJ
RoyalBJ
  • Threads: 33
  • Posts: 260
Joined: Jul 18, 2011
March 25th, 2013 at 10:17:38 AM permalink
Looking at Galaxy Gaming's and wizard's sites, there is only one payout table: 3 card pair+flush and higher pay 9 to 1. I heard in Vegas there is another payout table. Could someone confirmed this? What is the other payout table?
Paigowdan
Paigowdan
  • Threads: 115
  • Posts: 5692
Joined: Apr 28, 2010
March 25th, 2013 at 10:22:09 AM permalink
Yes, it is called 21+3 Xtreme.

Payouts are as follows:

Straight Flush = 30:1
3 of a kind = 20:1
Straight = 10:1
Flush = 5:1
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
RoyalBJ
RoyalBJ
  • Threads: 33
  • Posts: 260
Joined: Jul 18, 2011
March 25th, 2013 at 10:24:21 AM permalink
Thanks. IMO no-Xtreme is doing better.
Paradigm
Paradigm
  • Threads: 42
  • Posts: 2226
Joined: Feb 24, 2011
March 25th, 2013 at 10:31:06 AM permalink
Dan, please lead the charge to push "no-extreme 21+3" at Galaxy.....Derek knew what he was doing :-)
Paigowdan
Paigowdan
  • Threads: 115
  • Posts: 5692
Joined: Apr 28, 2010
March 25th, 2013 at 10:34:47 AM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

Dan, please lead the charge to push "no-extreme 21+3" at Galaxy.....Derek knew what he was doing :-)



The customers call the tune, what can I tell you......
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
RoyalBJ
RoyalBJ
  • Threads: 33
  • Posts: 260
Joined: Jul 18, 2011
March 25th, 2013 at 10:36:32 AM permalink
Are you sure? Not the customers I saw at Rio - no one bets it.
Paradigm
Paradigm
  • Threads: 42
  • Posts: 2226
Joined: Feb 24, 2011
March 25th, 2013 at 11:01:38 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

The customers call the tune, what can I tell you......


I hear ya :-).....I love that 9-1 simple pay table.....overpay on the more frequent hits, under pay on the longshots, makes it unique from the Pair Plus pay table.....just sayin'
Paradigm
Paradigm
  • Threads: 42
  • Posts: 2226
Joined: Feb 24, 2011
March 25th, 2013 at 11:35:20 AM permalink
With 9-1 paytable, you also should run it as a $5 min bet game. Those $45 wins add some real juice to BJ. Not so much with $9 wins...

Same with House Money.....I played HM at Fiesta back in December with Switch for a $1 min bet.....didn't like it so much. Recently, played HM at Pala, $10 min BJ table with $5 min House Money side bet.....was a much better experience since you win the even money/3-1 payouts most of the time. Capping your bet with an extra $10 or $20 on a J/10 or J/J was a lot more exciting than capping it with an extra $2 or $4 when playing $1.

Players may resist $5 to begin with and then they will see HM hitting 23% of their hands and start to think that it may be worth it. Same when they miss out on the $45 hits on 21+3, even with its sub 10% hit rate.

I think the Non "dollar and a prayer/High HE"" type BJ side bets need to be marketed as $5 min bets to the players....it is how they were designed to be played and provide the best player experience. Dollars are for Lucky Ladies/Kings Bounty & Lucky Lucky, bets with 1000-1 potential pay outs.
tringlomane
tringlomane
  • Threads: 8
  • Posts: 6284
Joined: Aug 25, 2012
March 25th, 2013 at 11:39:16 AM permalink
Quote: RoyalBJ

Are you sure? Not the customers I saw at Rio - no one bets it.



Glad to hear that.

I think most of the CET properties in Tunica have the 21+3 XTreme tables as well. I like the idea of the progressive paytable, but not when it carries a 13.39% house edge!
  • Jump to: