TIMSPEED
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December 11th, 2012 at 12:43:12 PM permalink
Just curious...it seems as though one may be better than the other...
Personally, I've gotten to the point of HATING PGP...and am now hooked on UTH.
I think my local casino comps better for UTH than on PGP.
I know for UTH, they comp the same as craps or blackjack (25% of average bet, per hour)
But in PGP, they comp less (half as much; 25% of average per TWO hours)
I only want to play at a full table for either...as to slow the pace of the game down...
I just can't see playing UTH for more than an hour at a time (although I imagine people do?)
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
AxiomOfChoice
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December 11th, 2012 at 1:04:29 PM permalink
Not only do they comp UTH better, but the house edge per hand is lower if you don't bank PGP. If you DO bank, PGP is probably better.

When you say 25% "of average"... do you mean the average ante, or the average total bet (including play and blind?). Because, if you just mean ante, that actually is not a great deal. At MGM properties in Vegas they comp it 3x as well as craps or blackjack. (ie, if you are playing $25 on ante, they will count you as playing $75/hand)

With UTH being comped the same as blackjack, if the blackjack rules are decent, you will probably do better playing blackjack than UTH, if you are only playing for comps. You will lose less and get better comps, even if you are not counting. Of course, your enjoyment factors into it too.

As for the time, I've played UTH for 6 hours straight before. I really like the game.
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December 11th, 2012 at 1:12:01 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Not only do they comp UTH better, but the house edge per hand is lower if you don't bank PGP. If you DO bank, PGP is probably better.
When you say 25% "of average"... do you mean the average ante, or the average total bet (including play and blind?). Because, if you just mean ante, that actually is not a great deal. At MGM properties in Vegas they comp it 3x as well as craps or blackjack. (ie, if you are playing $25 on ante, they will count you as playing $75/hand)
With UTH being comped the same as blackjack, if the blackjack rules are decent, you will probably do better playing blackjack than UTH, if you are only playing for comps. You will lose less and get better comps, even if you are not counting. Of course, your enjoyment factors into it too.
As for the time, I've played UTH for 6 hours straight before. I really like the game.


I mean, if I'm playing a $5 minimum at UTH, they'll comp me for $20 (Blind + Ante + 2x raise average)
Hell, if I was playing a $25 minimum then I'd have a $100 average!
I'm just saying better than BJ, because at BJ you'll get a lot more hands per hour in a single-deck game than you would in UTH (and the BJ isn't great..Double 10/11 only)
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
AxiomOfChoice
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December 11th, 2012 at 4:23:11 PM permalink
Ok, I was just checking. So they comp you at 4x your ante. That's quite good. It's unlikely that you will find a better game for comps.

The HE is 2.3% of your ante if you play correctly, ie, less than 0.6% of what they are recording as your average hand. And the game is slooooow. Maybe 25 hands per hour at a full table? So, you are losing about 14% or 15% of an "average bet" per hour.

One thing to remember is that the large payoff on a royal adds about 1.5% of an ante to your EV, so your losses between royals (which can come years, or even decades, apart, depending how often you play) will run closer to 3.8% of the ante. It's still a great deal, even if you never hit a royal, though.
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