Mississippi Stud practice game
November 20th, 2012 at 9:14:38 AM
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I'd like to invite my loyal guinea pigs to try out JB's new Mississippi Stud game. You may wish to review the strategy first.
Please report any bugs, in particular where the advice doesn't match my strategy. I welcome all other comments too.
Please report any bugs, in particular where the advice doesn't match my strategy. I welcome all other comments too.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 20th, 2012 at 9:20:02 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
November 20th, 2012 at 10:32:17 AM
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Happened twice. Dealt low pair and tripled. Hit the pair making it 3OAK. Tried to triple 4th street and error message appeared. Overode the error message and tripled 4th and 5th.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
November 20th, 2012 at 10:33:09 AM
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That has been fixed. If you're still in the game, reload the page and it will load the fixed version.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:01:18 PM
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Thanks! What's the best way to send this game to a friend who never, never plays High Low, suited or not. Of course he wouldn't figure out how much ev he is losing, but the error messages might annoy him!
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:06:09 PM
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Send the link: https://wizardofodds.com/play/mississippi-stud/
November 20th, 2012 at 12:08:16 PM
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Quote: WizardI'd like to invite my loyal guinea pigs to try out JB's new Mississippi Stud game. You may wish to review the strategy first.
Please report any bugs, in particular where the advice doesn't match my strategy. I welcome all other comments too.
I did a quick check and looks great! The warning feature is of course appreciated. The only thing I can think of is people may want to see the remaining cards upon folding, like they would playing it live.
Lack of prior planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:42:48 PM
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Quote: TheBigPaybakQuote: WizardI'd like to invite my loyal guinea pigs to try out JB's new Mississippi Stud game. You may wish to review the strategy first.
Please report any bugs, in particular where the advice doesn't match my strategy. I welcome all other comments too.
I did a quick check and looks great! The warning feature is of course appreciated. The only thing I can think of is people may want to see the remaining cards upon folding, like they would playing it live.
I've never played MS Stud live, but if everyone folds, does the dealer still bother to expose the community cards?
November 20th, 2012 at 12:45:15 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneQuote: TheBigPaybakQuote: WizardI'd like to invite my loyal guinea pigs to try out JB's new Mississippi Stud game. You may wish to review the strategy first.
Please report any bugs, in particular where the advice doesn't match my strategy. I welcome all other comments too.
I did a quick check and looks great! The warning feature is of course appreciated. The only thing I can think of is people may want to see the remaining cards upon folding, like they would playing it live.
I've never played MS Stud live, but if everyone folds, does the dealer still bother to expose the community cards?
Now that you mention it, I'm not 100% sure, although I believe they do. SHFL's online version does show the cards, and at least in 3-card poker, I know they do...
Lack of prior planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:02:38 PM
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Having played the game in about 15 MS casinos only the uncircumcised philistines at Sam's Town, Tunica don't show the cards.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:23:15 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneI've never played MS Stud live, but if everyone folds, does the dealer still bother to expose the community cards?
We do where I work, and everywhere else I've seen the game.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:54:53 PM
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I really want to like this game, but it is just almost as mind-numbingly boring as let-it-ride. The hit % is way too low.
Wisdom is the quality that keeps you out of situations where you would otherwise need it
November 20th, 2012 at 3:13:53 PM
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Quote: dwheatleyI really want to like this game, but it is just almost as mind-numbingly boring as let-it-ride. The hit % is way too low.
Yeah but when you win you really WIN. I love it. Especially if the dealer is flashing :)
November 20th, 2012 at 3:52:25 PM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoiceYeah but when you win you really WIN. I love it. Especially if the dealer is flashing :)
Yeah...just got JJ on a J3J board on the practice game...doh I would have loved a $2k win for that at a real casino (I would never bet more than $5 ante). I think the quad payout is a big reason this game is popular.
November 28th, 2012 at 12:54:07 AM
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Quote: WizardI'd like to invite my loyal guinea pigs to try out JB's new Mississippi Stud game. You may wish to review the strategy first.
Please report any bugs, in particular where the advice doesn't match my strategy. I welcome all other comments too.
Hi Wizard,
I found a bug.
On AKQJ (different suits) it warns me that a 1x bet is not the correct play. It doesn't give the warning for a 3x bet. 1x is, in fact, the correct play (it's the play given in your strategy, and, indeed, each additional bet (past the first) has an EV of -1/12 of a bet:
((12 outs to a big pair x 1) + (4 outs to a straight x 4) + (32 outs to a loss x -1)) / 48 cards = -4 / 48.
Note that if the payout for a straight is 5-1 (as several sources claim that it is at the Barona) then 1x, 2x, or 3x would all be equal plays (since each additional bet would have 0 EV). However, the payout in your practice game is 4-1.
I'm not sure if this bug is caused by using the incorrect straight payout in the calculations, or if it's caused by mistakenly thinking that AKQJ is open-ended (rather than a gutshot). If it's the latter, it may also be worth checking that:
1. The game doesn't pay a "wrap-around" straight (eg, JQKA2) as a straight (unlikely), and
2. The game doesn't also advice a 3x raise on A234 (likely).
Overall, it's a great game, though. Much better than the one that you link to at the bottom of your MS stud page.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:18:26 PM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoice...On AKQJ (different suits) it warns me that a 1x bet is not the correct play...
I saw the same error today.
I, too, enjoy this trainer, and I think I'm ready to play with real money.
November 30th, 2012 at 9:35:43 PM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoiceOn AKQJ (different suits) it warns me that a 1x bet is not the correct play
Good catch, thanks. It was incorrectly treating AKQJ as not having a gap. A234 was already being treated as having a gap.
It should be fixed now.
December 4th, 2012 at 12:37:58 AM
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December 4th, 2012 at 12:59:06 AM
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So, how does this work? Does the Wiz just send you a check? :)
JB! There aren't enough room for all the digits in the WIN box. Does that count as a bug?
JB! There aren't enough room for all the digits in the WIN box. Does that count as a bug?
December 4th, 2012 at 3:07:41 AM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoiceJB! There aren't enough room for all the digits in the WIN box. Does that count as a bug?
<sheepishly> Yes.
December 8th, 2012 at 10:19:10 AM
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Nice hit! How'd you manage to do an $8,000 wager? (Edit: $700 + 3x, 3x, 3x . . . I see).
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
December 9th, 2012 at 2:03:49 PM
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Should be $1000, 1x, 3x, 3x (you don't 3-bet 2 big suited cards)
Also, $700, 3x, 3x, 3x would be 7k ($700 x 10). You could do it with an $800 ante, but that would require misplaying the first bet.
Also, $700, 3x, 3x, 3x would be 7k ($700 x 10). You could do it with an $800 ante, but that would require misplaying the first bet.
December 10th, 2012 at 7:36:15 AM
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I love the game. Whether the dealer turns over his cards after the player has folded, is not important to me. I try to treat it exactly like I do when actually playing at a Casino. I do my best not to look. The reason can be found in the Wizard's quote: "It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet." It makes it more difficult to stick with the system, when you see that a bad bet would have paid better than a good bet. At least, it makes it harder for me personally.
Everyone has a right to their own problems.
