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September 17th, 2022 at 4:04:13 PM permalink
Greetings!

This is just an update to the effect that what I believe to be 13 sets of Picks have been received with ten reminders that were just sent.

There's really no reason for me not to open the PM's, except it's easier to post the Picks if I can avoid opening any. Usually what I will do is just open the individual PM's in different tabs, and all of them are a darker color because they are unopened, then I can just go from tab to tab and copy/paste.
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September 18th, 2022 at 7:25:05 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 2 Picks are as follows:

Vegasbrent:
Saints +2.5
Patriots -2
Broncos -10
Eagles -2
Rams-10.5-Confidence

AZDUFFMAN:
Patriots UNDER 40
Bengals -7.5
Dolphins OVER 44.5---CONFIDENCE
Cardinals 5.5
Jets UNDER 40

KSDJDJ:
Buccaneers Under 44
Dolphins Under 44.5
Cowboys Under 42
Seahawks Under 41
Titans Over 48.5

Wizard:
Jets 6.5
Jaguars 4
Dolphins 3.5
Cowboys 7.5 confidence
Bears 10

GenWyzgy
Panthers +2.5
Steelers +2 Confidence
Seahawks +8.5
Jaguars +4
Texans Under 45

JohnnyQ:
Patriots -2
Ravens -3.5
Commanders U 48.5
Falcons 10.5 CONFIDENCE
Cardinals U 51.5

IndyJeffrey:
Buccaneers -2.5 - Confidence
Jaguars 4
Lions -2
Seahawks 8.5
Bears 10

PlayYourCardsRight:
Buccaneers -2.5
Jaguars 4 CONFIDENCE
Lions -2
Raiders -5.5
Bengals -7.5

Joeman:
Eagles -2
Buccaneers -2.5-confidence
Jaguars OVER 45.5
Panthers +2.5
Bills -10

jml24:
Saints +2.5
Jaguars +4
Dolphins +3.5
Seahawks +8.5
Cowboys +7.5

JW17:
Broncos -10 Confidence
Buccaneers -2.5
Lions -2
Titans +10
Jaguars +4

Johnzimbo:
49ers -8.5
Bengals under 42 confidence
Bengals -7.5
Falcons under 46.5
Saints +2.5

SOOPOO:
Browns-6.5 Confidence
Bears +10
Titans +10
Falcons + 10.5
Seahawks + 8.5

Gaming711:
San Fran - 8.5 Confidence
Vikings +2
Bills - 10
Colts - 4
Green Bay- 10

EdCollins:
Jags +4
Commanders +2
Bears +10
Raiders -5.5 Confidence
Cowboys +7.5

Gordonm888:
Dolphins 3.5
49ers -8.5
Cardinals 5.5
Packers -10
Eagles -2-Confidence

miplet:
Panthers +2.5
Jaguars +4-confidence
Commanders +2
Falcons +10.5
Cowboys +7.5

FourFiveFace:
Jets +6.5-Confidence
Panthers +2.5
Jaguars +4
Cardinals +5.5
Eagles -2
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September 18th, 2022 at 7:29:54 AM permalink
It would appear that JimRockford made Picks for Week 1, but not Week 2, so is taking a Skip Week accordingly.

The reason that is relevant is because it gets us to a total of twenty players, therefore, there will also be a Playoff Picks game this year if all twenty regular game players will commit to playing it when the time comes.

We should also have two additional players for the Playoff Picks game. Technically, I shouldn't disclose who, but I have had two people PM me and say they couldn't possibly remember to make all their regular season Picks this year, don't want to use Defaults, but will most likely participate in the Playoff Picks game as there are fewer weeks to remember to make Picks.

Also, I really do intend to do an NCAA basketball March Madness thing, at some point; it's just always tough to get around to it because I really don't care about basketball. What I will probably do is do one for the Women's Tournament, since that doesn't seem to happen often and I like College Women's Hoops better than Men's.
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September 18th, 2022 at 7:31:37 AM permalink
You list Playyourcards right's picks twice, once with confidence for one game and once without
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September 18th, 2022 at 7:35:46 AM permalink
Hmm...maybe I'm wrong about us being at twenty players.

In any event, thank you for the correction! It is the version with the Confidence Pick that plays, so I will get that cleaned up.
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September 18th, 2022 at 7:45:43 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Hmm...maybe I'm wrong about us being at twenty players.

Yes, I show 19 players. 18 players competing this week, with JimRockford taking his Skip Week.

Here's this week's pick consensus. Huge amount of love for the Jags.




Enjoy the games.
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September 18th, 2022 at 7:47:13 AM permalink
UPDATE:

There is nobody, JimRockford aside, Skipping Week 2, which puts us at 19 players.

That being the case, I'm probably not going to do the Playoff Picks Game this year because I really don't like the Playoff game anyway and we do not have twenty players. The reason I don't like the game is because the sample size is too limited for what the game is, and no matter what set of rules I use, I always feel like not enough players are legitimately in contention for long enough. Every time I try to adjust the rules, it's just more of the same again. It's also too short to justify a, "Most Average," prize.

I think what I will do is commit to doing something for March Madness, probably the Women's tournament because I don't actively hate watching those games. I think I will offer up the same total of $250 in prizes that was offered for last year's Playoff contest...and I will be able to do Top 3, Most Average and You Suck.

In addition to there are several games, you also would only have to submit one set of Picks. The way it would work is that there would be points awarded for advancing teams, now, players wouldn't be allowed to create an impossible scenario, (ex. having two teams make the Final Four despite they would have to play each other for either to do so) but all they would have to do is take a picture of the brackets, or simply, tell me who you have advancing to each round.

That would only need to be done once, then we could just sit and watch everything unfold. I think that's a better sort of game given the short period of time being covered.
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September 18th, 2022 at 4:43:48 PM permalink
I am not feeling confident in my picking after two weeks. I am certainly not seeing patterns like EvenBob would :)
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September 18th, 2022 at 5:27:29 PM permalink
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I am not feeling confident in my picking after two weeks. I am certainly not seeing patterns like EvenBob would :)
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I'm seeing a pattern. Sweating out most of my picks right until the final gun,
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I'm seeing a pattern. Sweating out most of my picks right until the final gun,
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I picked Arizona and Miami. Luckily, those picks were correct due to massive late-game swings and wild endings. But I did spend most of those games thinking that those picks were a humiliating failure on my part.

So, yeah, the pattern is humiliation.
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September 19th, 2022 at 2:54:53 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

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I'm seeing a pattern. Sweating out most of my picks right until the final gun,
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I picked Arizona and Miami. Luckily, those picks were correct due to massive late-game swings and wild endings. But I did spend most of those games thinking that those picks were a humiliating failure on my part.

So, yeah, the pattern is humiliation.
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I had $400 @ +167 and $550 @ -110 on Miami (ML and +3.5).
Then, when the Ravens were up by 14 in the first half, I cashed out the bets for about $180 combined***.

***: I estimated the total value of my bets to be about $155 at the time.
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Week 02 Results

Vegasbrent (2-4)
SAINTS +2.5 (loss)
PATRIOTS -2 (win)
BRONCOS -10 (loss)
EAGLES -2 (win)
RAMS-10.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)

AZDUFFMAN (4-2)
PATRIOTS UNDER 40 (win)
BENGALS -7.5 (loss)
DOLPHINS OVER 44.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
CARDINALS 5.5 (win)
JETS UNDER 40 (loss)

KSDJDJ (3-2)
BUCCANEERS UNDER 44 (win)
DOLPHINS UNDER 44.5 (loss)
COWBOYS UNDER 42 (win)
SEAHAWKS UNDER 41 (win)
TITANS OVER 48.5 (loss)

Wizard (5-1)
JETS 6.5 (win)
JAGUARS 4 (win)
DOLPHINS 3.5 (win)
COWBOYS 7.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
BEARS 10 (loss)

GenWyzgy (2-4)
PANTHERS +2.5 (loss)
STEELERS +2 CONFIDENCE (loss)
SEAHAWKS +8.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 (win)
TEXANS UNDER 45 (win)

JohnnyQ (3-3)
PATRIOTS -2 (win)
RAVENS -3.5 (loss)
COMMANDERS UNDER 48.5 (loss)
FALCONS 10.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
CARDINALS UNDER 51.5 (loss)

IndyJeffrey (4-2)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
JAGUARS 4 (win)
LIONS -2 (win)
SEAHAWKS 8.5 (loss)
BEARS 10 (loss)

PlayYourCardsRight (4-2)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 (win)
JAGUARS 4 CONFIDENCE (win)
LIONS -2 (win)
RAIDERS -5.5 (loss)
BENGALS -7.5 (loss)

Joeman (4-2)
EAGLES -2 (win)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
JAGUARS OVER 45.5 (loss)
PANTHERS +2.5 (loss)
BILLS -10 (win)

jml24 (3-2)
SAINTS +2.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 (win)
DOLPHINS +3.5 (win)
SEAHAWKS +8.5 (loss)
COWBOYS +7.5 (win)

JW17 (3-3)
BRONCOS -10 CONFIDENCE (loss)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 (win)
LIONS -2 (win)
TITANS +10 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 (win)

Johnzimbo (3-3)
49ERS -8.5 (win)
BENGALS UNDER 42 CONFIDENCE (win)
BENGALS -7.5 (loss)
FALCONS UNDER 46.5 (loss)
SAINTS +2.5 (loss)

SOOPOO (1-5)
BROWNS-6.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
BEARS +10 (loss)
TITANS +10 (loss)
FALCONS + 10.5 (win)
SEAHAWKS + 8.5 (loss)

Gaming711 (4-2)
SAN FRAN - 8.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
VIKINGS +2 (loss)
BILLS - 10 (win)
COLTS - 4 (loss)
GREEN BAY- 10 (win)

EdCollins (2-4)
JAGS +4 (win)
COMMANDERS +2 (loss)
BEARS +10 (loss)
RAIDERS -5.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
COWBOYS +7.5 (win)

Gordonm888 (6-0)
DOLPHINS 3.5 (win)
49ERS -8.5 (win)
CARDINALS 5.5 (win)
PACKERS -10 (win)
EAGLES -2 CONFIDENCE (win)

miplet (4-2)
PANTHERS +2.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 CONFIDENCE (win)
COMMANDERS +2 (loss)
FALCONS +10.5 (win)
COWBOYS +7.5 (win)

FourFiveFace (5-1)
JETS +6.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
PANTHERS +2.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 (win)
CARDINALS +5.5 (win)
EAGLES -2 (win)



Week 02 Standings

Name Wins Losses %
Gordonm888 11 1 91.67%
miplet 10 2 83.33%
AZDuffman 8 4 66.67%
FourFiveFace 8 4 66.67%
PlayYourCardsRight 4 2 66.67%
jml24 6 4 60.00%
Gaming711 7 5 58.33%
IndyJeffrey 7 5 58.33%
Joeman 7 5 58.33%
Vegasbrent 7 5 58.33%
Wizard 7 5 58.33%
JohnnyQ 3 3 50.00%
KSDJDJ 5 5 50.00%
EdCollins 5 7 41.67%
GenWyzgy 4 8 33.33%
JimRockford 2 4 33.33%
Johnzimbo 4 8 33.33%
JW17 4 8 33.33%
SOOPOO 2 10 16.67%
Totals 111 95 53.88%



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Quote: EdCollins

Week 02 Results

Vegasbrent (2-4)
SAINTS +2.5 (loss)
PATRIOTS -2 (win)
BRONCOS -10 (loss)
EAGLES -2 (win)
RAMS-10.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)

AZDUFFMAN (4-2)
PATRIOTS UNDER 40 (win)
BENGALS -7.5 (loss)
DOLPHINS OVER 44.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
CARDINALS 5.5 (win)
JETS UNDER 40 (loss)

KSDJDJ (3-2)
BUCCANEERS UNDER 44 (win)
DOLPHINS UNDER 44.5 (loss)
COWBOYS UNDER 42 (win)
SEAHAWKS UNDER 41 (win)
TITANS OVER 48.5 (loss)

Wizard (5-1)
JETS 6.5 (win)
JAGUARS 4 (win)
DOLPHINS 3.5 (win)
COWBOYS 7.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
BEARS 10 (loss)

GenWyzgy (2-4)
PANTHERS +2.5 (loss)
STEELERS +2 CONFIDENCE (loss)
SEAHAWKS +8.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 (win)
TEXANS UNDER 45 (win)

JohnnyQ (3-3)
PATRIOTS -2 (win)
RAVENS -3.5 (loss)
COMMANDERS UNDER 48.5 (loss)
FALCONS 10.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
CARDINALS UNDER 51.5 (loss)

IndyJeffrey (4-2)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
JAGUARS 4 (win)
LIONS -2 (win)
SEAHAWKS 8.5 (loss)
BEARS 10 (loss)

PlayYourCardsRight (4-2)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 (win)
JAGUARS 4 CONFIDENCE (win)
LIONS -2 (win)
RAIDERS -5.5 (loss)
BENGALS -7.5 (loss)

Joeman (4-2)
EAGLES -2 (win)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
JAGUARS OVER 45.5 (loss)
PANTHERS +2.5 (loss)
BILLS -10 (win)

jml24 (3-2)
SAINTS +2.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 (win)
DOLPHINS +3.5 (win)
SEAHAWKS +8.5 (loss)
COWBOYS +7.5 (win)

JW17 (3-3)
BRONCOS -10 CONFIDENCE (loss)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 (win)
LIONS -2 (win)
TITANS +10 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 (win)

Johnzimbo (3-3)
49ERS -8.5 (win)
BENGALS UNDER 42 CONFIDENCE (win)
BENGALS -7.5 (loss)
FALCONS UNDER 46.5 (loss)
SAINTS +2.5 (loss)

SOOPOO (1-5)
BROWNS-6.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
BEARS +10 (loss)
TITANS +10 (loss)
FALCONS + 10.5 (win)
SEAHAWKS + 8.5 (loss)

Gaming711 (4-2)
SAN FRAN - 8.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
VIKINGS +2 (loss)
BILLS - 10 (win)
COLTS - 4 (loss)
GREEN BAY- 10 (win)

EdCollins (2-4)
JAGS +4 (win)
COMMANDERS +2 (loss)
BEARS +10 (loss)
RAIDERS -5.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
COWBOYS +7.5 (win)

Gordonm888 (6-0)
DOLPHINS 3.5 (win)
49ERS -8.5 (win)
CARDINALS 5.5 (win)
PACKERS -10 (win)
EAGLES -2 CONFIDENCE (win)

miplet (4-2)
PANTHERS +2.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 CONFIDENCE (win)
COMMANDERS +2 (loss)
FALCONS +10.5 (win)
COWBOYS +7.5 (win)

FourFiveFace (5-1)
JETS +6.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
PANTHERS +2.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +4 (win)
CARDINALS +5.5 (win)
EAGLES -2 (win)



Week 02 Standings


Name Wins Losses %
Gordonm888 11 1 91.67%
miplet 10 2 83.33%
AZDuffman 8 4 66.67%
FourFiveFace 8 4 66.67%
PlayYourCardsRight 4 2 66.67%
jml24 6 4 60.00%
Gaming711 7 5 58.33%
IndyJeffrey 7 5 58.33%
Joeman 7 5 58.33%
Vegasbrent 7 5 58.33%
Wizard 7 5 58.33%
JohnnyQ 3 3 50.00%
KSDJDJ 5 5 50.00%
EdCollins 5 7 41.67%
GenWyzgy 4 8 33.33%
JimRockford 2 4 33.33%
Johnzimbo 4 8 33.33%
JW17 4 8 33.33%
SOOPOO 2 10 16.67%
Totals 111 95 53.88%



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Fade me! But in actuality, I had my best week betting! All because I had a boatload of bets on the Bills! Only one I lost was a parlay that needed Henry to get a paltry 50 yards. He only got 25!
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September 19th, 2022 at 8:29:58 PM permalink
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Fade me! But in actuality, I had my best week betting! All because I had a boatload of bets on the Bills! Only one I lost was a parlay that needed Henry to get a paltry 50 yards. He only got 25!
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Bills looking unstoppable. Can't remember when an NFL team looked this dominant.
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September 19th, 2022 at 8:33:55 PM permalink
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You're amazing, miplet. Can you also provide a link for the software you used to make your picks in the first week? We'd all like to go 6-0 in this 2nd week.
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Simply click on the compare lines button. It will show all the lines that have changed with the current line in parentheses. Just make sure that the WoV lines are for the current week and not last.
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Don't know if you used it, but you did go 6-0
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No, I didn't use it. I factor in more than line movement. And I got a bit lucky this week, I guess.
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September 20th, 2022 at 5:12:20 AM permalink
Very impressive Gordon and Miplet. SooPoo, your outcome is also very statistically improbable.
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Very impressive Gordon and Miplet. SooPoo, your outcome is also very statistically improbable.
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I made an offer somewhere on WoV, that you could buy my picks (to fade of course!). One year I’m gonna be smart and just fade myself! In my real +EV (sometimes mixed with a little -EV) betting this NFL weekend I hit it out of the park mostly because of the multiple parlays involving the Bills. Biggest one was Allen over 1.5 TDs passing. Bills -10.5. Bills over 47.5. Allen under 40 yards rushing. With my boost it paid around 13-1. And I hedged on the O/U when it became apparent the other 3 were winners. I got my money in on under 49!!!!!!
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September 20th, 2022 at 6:00:17 AM permalink
Great week, everyone; it's nice to see the winning percentage improve so significantly.

Congratulations to Gordonm888 on the Perfect Week!!! I'm pretty confident there hasn't been perfection in the first two weeks of the season before!

As always, thank you to EdCollins for posting the updated Standings!
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September 22nd, 2022 at 7:07:47 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 3 Lines are as follows:

Chiefs -5.5 @ Colts 5.5 O/U 50.5
Ravens -2.5 @ Patriots 2.5 O/U 43.5
Texans 2.5 @ Bears -2.5 O/U 40
Raiders -2 @ Titans 2 O/U 45.5
Bills -6 @ Dolphins 6 O/U 52.5
Lions 6 @ Vikings -6 O/U 52.5
Bengals -5 @ Jets 5 O/U 45
Eagles -6.5 @ Commanders 6.5 O/U 47.5
Saints -3 @ Panthers 3 O/U 40.5
Jaguars 7 @ Chargers -7 O/U 47.5
Packers 1 @ Buccaneers -1 O/U 41.5
Rams -3.5 @ Cardinals 3.5 O/U 48.5
Falcons 0.5 @ Seahawks -0.5 O/U 41.5
49ers -2 @ Broncos 2 O/U 44.5
Cowboys 1 @ Giants -1 O/U 39

I'm sending the PM's now, but do keep in mind this will be the next to last week for Thursday PM's, starting Week 5, it will just be Saturday reminders for those who have not picked.
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September 25th, 2022 at 8:52:28 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 3 Picks are as follows:

Wizard:
Colts +5.5-CONFIDENCE
Dolphins +6
Lions +6
Jets +5
Commanders +6.5

Joeman:
Lions +6
Titans UNDER 45.5
49ers -2-Confidence
Chiefs -5.5
Saints -3

PlayYourCardsRight:
Bears -2.5
Bills -6 CONFIDENCE
Chargers -7
Buccaneers -1
Seahawks -0.5

Vegasbrent:
Dolphins +6
Patriots +2.5
Jets +5
Broncos +2
Giants -1-Confidence

AZDuffman:
Buccaneers -1
Lions UNDER 52.5
Bills OVER 52.5
Bears UNDER 40-CONFIDENECE
Cardinals +3.5

KSDJDJ:
Dolphins 6 - Confidence
Dolphins Under 52.5
Lions 6
Lions Over 52.5
Bengals -5

JohnnyQ:
Chiefs -5.5
Raiders -2 CONFIDENCE
Vikings -6
Eagles -6.5
Buccaneers -1

IndyJeffrey
Chiefs -5.5
Bills -6 - confidence
Vikings Under 52.5
Jaguars 7
Cowboys 1

JimRockford:
Eagles -6.5
Loins OVER 52.5 -Confidence
Bears -2.5
Jaguars 7
Cowboys 1

GenWyzgy:
Chiefs -5.5
Ravens -2.5
Titans +2 CONFIDENCE
Lions OVER 52.5
Bucs -1

Johnzimbo
Packers under 41.5
Commanders +6.5 confidence
Giants under 39
49ers -2
Bears under 40

EdCollins
Dolphins +6
Bengals -5
Chargers Under 47.5 Confidence
Chargers -7
Rams -3.5

SOOPOO:
CHIEFS -5.5
DOLPHINS +6 confidence
49ers -2
Ravens -2.5
Raiders -2

JW17:
Broncos +2 confidence
Packers +1
Rams -3.5
Chiefs -5.5
Jaguars *7

jml24:
Patriots 2.5
Commanders 6.5
Saints -3
Cardinals 3.5
Seahawks -0.5

Gaming711:
Chiefs -5.5
Raiders -2
49ers -2 confidence
Detroit over 52.5
Bills over 52.5

miplet:
Bears -2.5
Dolphins 6
Bengals -5
Jaguars +7-confidence
Chargers UNDER 47.5

Gordonm888
Bears Under 40
Lions Over 52.5-Confidence
Jaguars 7
Jaguars Under 47.5
Packers Under 41.5

FourFiveFace:
Colts +5.5
Lions +6-Confidence
Bengals -5
Panthers +3
Packers +1

Let's have another winning week! It appears that there are no Skip Weeks being used this week, either that, or I suck at counting.
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Week 3 Pick Consensus:

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I have never had a week with 4 O/U picks. Here was my thinking

Bears Under 40 - Predicted winds of 16mph this afternoon, minor line shift to U 39
Edit: 43 Lost

Lions Over 52.5-Confidence Lions have an incredible high-scoring offense with below-average defense and Vikings offense likely to do well after their frustrating game last week.
Edit: 52 Lost

Jaguars Under 47.5 Justin Herbert injury, line shifted to U 42
Edit: 48 Lost

Packers Under 41.5 Both Packers and Tampa have both been in low scoring games for first two weeks, Tampa has a soul-crushing defense with multiple offensive linemen injured, and with Mike Evans suspended, Chris Godwin out and Julio Jones limited in practices. I do feel stupid going Under in a Brady vs Rodgers game, though.

Edit: 26 Won

Having said all this, I am braced for a losing week. I have never done well with O/U bets

Edit: I went 2-4 this week , so much for my experiment with picking over/under Point totals.
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September 26th, 2022 at 4:46:54 AM permalink
I liked the reasoning for the Bucs one as well as the Jags one.
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Week 03 Results

Wizard (4-2)
COLTS +5.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
DOLPHINS +6 (win)
LIONS +6 (win)
JETS +5 (loss)
COMMANDERS +6.5 (loss)

Joeman (1-5)
LIONS +6 (win)
TITANS UNDER 45.5 (loss)
49ERS -2 CONFIDENCE (loss)
CHIEFS -5.5 (loss)
SAINTS -3 (loss)

PlayYourCardsRight (1-5)
BEARS -2.5 (win)
BILLS -6 CONFIDENCE (loss)
CHARGERS -7 (loss)
BUCCANEERS -1 (loss)
SEAHAWKS -0.5 (loss)

Vegasbrent (2-4)
DOLPHINS +6 (win)
PATRIOTS +2.5 (loss)
JETS +5 (loss)
BRONCOS +2 (win)
GIANTS -1 CONFIDENCE (loss)

AZDuffman (1-5)
BUCCANEERS -1 (loss)
LIONS UNDER 52.5 (win)
BILLS OVER 52.5 (loss)
BEARS UNDER 40 CONFIDENECE (loss)
CARDINALS +3.5 (loss)

KSDJDJ (5-1)
DOLPHINS +6 CONFIDENCE (win)
DOLPHINS UNDER 52.5 (win)
LIONS +6 (win)
LIONS OVER 52.5 (loss)
BENGALS -5 (win)

JohnnyQ (1-5)
CHIEFS -5.5 (loss)
RAIDERS -2 CONFIDENCE (loss)
VIKINGS -6 (loss)
EAGLES -6.5 (win)
BUCCANEERS -1 (loss)

IndyJeffrey (3-3)
CHIEFS -5.5 (loss)
BILLS -6 CONFIDENCE (loss)
VIKINGS UNDER 52.5 (win)
JAGUARS +7 (win)
COWBOYS +1 (win)

JimRockford (4-2)
EAGLES -6.5 (win)
LIONS OVER 52.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
BEARS -2.5 (win)
JAGUARS +7 (win)
COWBOYS +1 (win)

GenWyzgy (3-3)
CHIEFS -5.5 (loss)
RAVENS -2.5 (win)
TITANS +2 CONFIDENCE (win)
LIONS OVER 52.5 (loss)
BUCS -1 (loss)

Johnzimbo (1-4)
PACKERS UNDER 41.5 (win)
COMMANDERS +6.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
GIANTS UNDER 39 (push)
49ERS -2 (loss)
BEARS UNDER 40 (loss)

EdCollins (3-3)
DOLPHINS +6 (win)
BENGALS -5 (win)
CHARGERS UNDER 47.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
CHARGERS -7 (loss)
RAMS -3.5 (win)

SOOPOO (3-3)
CHIEFS -5.5 (loss)
DOLPHINS +6 CONFIDENCE (win)
49ERS -2 (loss)
RAVENS -2.5 (win)
RAIDERS -2 (loss)

JW17 (5-1)
BRONCOS +2 CONFIDENCE (win)
PACKERS +1 (win)
RAMS -3.5 (win)
CHIEFS -5.5 (loss)
JAGUARS *7 (win)

jml24 (0-5)
PATRIOTS +2.5 (loss)
COMMANDERS +6.5 (loss)
SAINTS -3 (loss)
CARDINALS +3.5 (loss)
SEAHAWKS -0.5 (loss)

Gaming711 (0-6)
CHIEFS -5.5 (loss)
RAIDERS -2 (loss)
49ERS -2 CONFIDENCE (loss)
DETROIT OVER 52.5 (loss)
BILLS OVER 52.5 (loss)

miplet (5-1)
BEARS -2.5 (win)
DOLPHINS +6 (win)
BENGALS -5 (win)
JAGUARS +7 CONFIDENCE (win)
CHARGERS UNDER 47.5 (loss)

Gordonm888 (2-4)
BEARS UNDER +40 (loss)
LIONS OVER 52.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
JAGUARS +7 (win)
JAGUARS UNDER 47.5 (loss)
PACKERS UNDER 41.5 (win)

FourFiveFace (6-0)
COLTS +5.5 (win)
LIONS +6 CONFIDENCE (win)
BENGALS -5 (win)
PANTHERS +3 (win)
PACKERS +1 (win)



Week 03 Standings

Name Wins Losses %
miplet 15 3 83.33%
FourFiveFace 14 4 77.78%
Gordonm888 13 5 72.22%
KSDJDJ 10 6 62.50%
Wizard 11 7 61.11%
IndyJeffrey 10 8 55.56%
AZDuffman 9 9 50.00%
JimRockford 6 6 50.00%
JW17 9 9 50.00%
Vegasbrent 9 9 50.00%
EdCollins 8 10 44.44%
Joeman 8 10 44.44%
PlayYourCardsRight 5 7 41.67%
jml24 6 9 40.00%
Gaming711 7 11 38.89%
GenWyzgy 7 11 38.89%
JohnnyQ 4 8 33.33%
Johnzimbo 5 12 29.41%
SOOPOO 5 13 27.78%
Totals 161 157 50.63%



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JohnnyQ: Week 01
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Week 03: FourFiveFace
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Congrats to FOURFIVEFACE on a perfect week! Well done.
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Note that this Sunday, the Vikings/Saints game is being held at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London, England. The scheduled start time is 6:30 am Pacific Standard Time.

Any picks for this game will have to be submitted to Mission before then.
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Quote: EdCollins

Note that this Sunday, the Vikings/Saints game is being held at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London, England. The scheduled start time is 6:30 am Pacific Standard Time.

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I was just reading that the Tampa Bay game will probably be played in Minnesota.
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Quote: DRich

Quote: EdCollins

Note that this Sunday, the Vikings/Saints game is being held at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London, England. The scheduled start time is 6:30 am Pacific Standard Time.

Any picks for this game will have to be submitted to Mission before then.
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I was just reading that the Tampa Bay game will probably be played in Minnesota.
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I just read that it will be played in Minnesota IF it is moved. Weather will be hot and sunny by Sunday in Tampa. But the ‘we need all resources pointed at cleaning up stuff’ so we won’t do the game here is certainly possible. I think if given even money, I bet on Minnesota.
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This post provides some perspective on the performance of our WOV NFL picks contestants. It's been an unusually rough three weeks so far, filled with unexpected results in NFL games.

ESPN has an Eliminator game in which participants try to pick the winner of one game each week -(NOT against the spread.). They are eliminated from the game if their pick is incorrect, so virtually every participant picks teams that are highly favored to win (however, they must pick a different team to be the winner in every week of the season.)

Here's what has happened this year.
2022
Week 1 Surviving: 53%; Eliminated: 47%
Week 2 Surviving: 56.5%; Eliminated: 43.5%
Week 3 Surviving: 40.2% ; Eliminated: 59.8%

Compare this to what happened in the 2021 Eliminator game
2021
Week 1 Surviving: 70.4%; Eliminated: 29.6%
Week 2 Surviving: 79.5%; Eliminated: 20.5%
Week 3 Surviving: 91.9% ; Eliminated: 8.1%%

Again, starting with about 267K people in Week1, this is people picking a large favorite in one game each week.
The first 3 weeks of 2022 seems to have had a large amount of upsets. And this past week, Week 3, was especially brutal with nearly 60% of the Eliminator contestants picking incorrectly (probably due in part to the Bills losing.)
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September 28th, 2022 at 12:58:14 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: DRich

Quote: EdCollins

Note that this Sunday, the Vikings/Saints game is being held at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London, England. The scheduled start time is 6:30 am Pacific Standard Time.

Any picks for this game will have to be submitted to Mission before then.
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I was just reading that the Tampa Bay game will probably be played in Minnesota.
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I just read that it will be played in Minnesota IF it is moved. Weather will be hot and sunny by Sunday in Tampa. But the ‘we need all resources pointed at cleaning up stuff’ so we won’t do the game here is certainly possible. I think if given even money, I bet on Minnesota.
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Might not have power by Sunday
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September 30th, 2022 at 6:12:30 AM permalink
Good morning!

Picks will be posted momentarily and I apologize for being tardy. I got caught up on a project last night and it slipped my mind. I almost did them Wednesday night, so that's what I will do from now on if I expect Thursday to be busy.

As always, thank you to EdCollins for the updated standings!
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September 30th, 2022 at 6:18:08 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 4 Lines are as follows:

Vikings -3 @ Saints 3 O/U 43.5
Browns -1 @ Falcons 1 O/U 47.5
Commanders 3.5 @ Cowboys -3.5 O/U 41.5
Seahawks 4 @ Lions -4 O/U 48
Titans 3.5 @ Colts -3.5 O/U 43
Bears 3 @ Giants -3 O/U 39.5
Jaguars 6.5 @ Eagles -6.5 O/U 45.5
Jets 3.5 @ Steelers -3.5 O/U 41.5
Bills -3 @ Ravens 3 O/U 51
Chargers -5 @ Texans 5 O/U 45
Cardinals 1 @ Panthers -1 O/U 43.5
Patriots 9.5 @ Packers -9.5 O/U 40.5
Broncos 2.5 @ Raiders -2.5 O/U 45.5
Chiefs 0 @ Buccaneers 0 O/U 45.5
Rams 1.5 @ 49ers -1.5 O/U 42

I saw that there may be an early game, so if you want that one, your picks will need to be received prior to that game kicking off.

Also, I'm going to go ahead and fire out the reminders tomorrow morning (I usually do this in the evening) because:

1.) I was a little late posting the lines.

AND:

2.) I might be engaged tomorrow evening until the late evening hours.
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Congrats to FOURFIVEFACE on a perfect week! Well done.
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Exactly this!

That said, even though these Perfect weeks have contributed to our x > 50% record overall, you guys could always let the prize grow a little bit. It does carry over, so you don't have to make sure to hit it every week.
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October 2nd, 2022 at 8:54:47 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 4 Picks are as follows:

FourFiveFace:
Browns -1
Commanders +3.5
Titans +3.5
Chargers -5-Confidence
Panthers -1

IndyJeffrey
Cowboys -3.5
Lions OVER 48
Jaguars 6.5 - Confidence
Steelers -3.5
Broncos 2.5

miplet:
Vikings -3
Seahawks +4-confidence
Bears +3
Buccaneers +0
49ers -1.5

EdCollins
Saints +3
Browns -1 Confidence
Colts -3.5
Broncos +2.5
Rams +1.5

Gaming711:
Vikings -3 confidence
Colts -3.5
Seahawks +4
Bills -3
Falcons over 47.5

jml24:
Saints 3
Titans 3.5
Bills -3 Confidence
Texans 5
Buccaneers 0

JW17:
Broncos 2.5
Cowboys -3.5
Jaguars 6.5
Rams 1.5
Lions -4

SOOPOO:
Chiefs PK Confidence
Packets -9.5
Jets +3.5
Chargers-5
Bills -3

PlayYourCardsRight:
Vikings -3 CONFIDENCE
Cowboys -3.5
Bears 3
Bills -3
Raiders -2.5

JohnnyQ:
Falcons 1
Cowboys -3.5
Eagles -6.5
Steelers -3.5 CONFIDENCE
Panthers -1

Gordonm888
Saints+3
Commanders+3.5
Seahawks+4
Chargers-5 Confidence
Cardinals+1

GenWyzgy:
Seahawks +4
Eagles -6.5
Ravens OVER 51 CONFIDENCE
Broncos +2.5
Chargers OVER 45

JimRockford
Vikings -3
Vikings UNDER 43.5
Lions -4
Buccaneers 0
Rams 1.5

Johnzimbo
Saints -3
Saints under 43.5 confidence
Packers -9.5
Packers under 40.5
Texans under 45

Joeman:
Vikings -3
Rams 1.5-Confidence
Jaguars 6.5
Cardinals 1
Cowboys OVER 41.5

AZDuffman:
Buccaneers UNDER 45.5 CONFIDENCE
Cardinals 1
Jets 3.5
Bills OVER 51
Browns OVER 47.5

ksdjdj:
Chargers -5
Saints Under 43.5-Confidence
49ers Over 42
Seahawks 4
Jets 3.5

Vegasbrent:
Saints +3
Commanders +3.5
Broncos +2.5
Buccaneers 0-Confidence
49ers -1.5

Wizard:
Saints +3 CONFIDENCE
Commanders +3.5
Seahawks +4
Titans +3.5
Bears +3
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October 2nd, 2022 at 9:03:51 AM permalink
Note that this pick is slightly confusing:

AZDuffman:
Buccaneers 0 UNDER 45.5 CONFIDENCE

Normally, of course, when an over/under is selected, the spread is not also listed.
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Quote: EdCollins

Note that this pick is slightly confusing:

AZDuffman:
Buccaneers 0 UNDER 45.5 CONFIDENCE

Normally, of course, when an over/under is selected, the spread is not also listed.
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It's the Under, my mistake!

Final week for formatting errors, btw! LOL
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Week 4 Pick Consensus:

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Interesting that in a contest with 19 players that the Vikings/Saints game had 19 units picked.

And that, with those picks, the contestants went 0-5, lol.
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Week 04 Results

FourFiveFace (3-3)
BROWNS -1 (loss)
COMMANDERS +3.5 (loss)
TITANS +3.5 (win)
CHARGERS -5 CONFIDENCE (win)
PANTHERS -1 (loss)

IndyJeffrey (2-4)
COWBOYS -3.5 (win)
LIONS OVER 48 (win)
JAGUARS +6.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
STEELERS -3.5 (loss)
BRONCOS +2.5 (loss)

miplet (3-2)
VIKINGS -3 (push)
SEAHAWKS +4 CONFIDENCE (win)
BEARS +3 (loss)
BUCCANEERS 0 (loss)
49ERS -1.5 (win)

EdCollins (0-5)
SAINTS +3 (push)
BROWNS -1 CONFIDENCE (loss)
COLTS -3.5 (loss)
BRONCOS +2.5 (loss)
RAMS +1.5 (loss)

Gaming711 (1-2)
VIKINGS -3 CONFIDENCE (push)
COLTS -3.5 (loss)
SEAHAWKS +4 (win)
BILLS -3 (push)
FALCONS OVER 47.5 (loss)

jml24 (1-2)
SAINTS +3 (push)
TITANS +3.5 (win)
BILLS -3 CONFIDENCE (push)
TEXANS +5 (loss)
BUCCANEERS 0 (loss)

JW17 (1-4)
BRONCOS +2.5 (loss)
COWBOYS -3.5 (win)
JAGUARS +6.5 (loss)
RAMS +1.5 (loss)
LIONS -4 (loss)

SOOPOO (4-1)
CHIEFS 0 CONFIDENCE (win)
PACKETS -9.5 (loss)
JETS +3.5 (win)
CHARGERS -5 (win)
BILLS -3 (push)

PlayYourCardsRight (2-1)
VIKINGS -3 CONFIDENCE (push)
COWBOYS -3.5 (win)
BEARS +3 (loss)
BILLS -3 (push)
RAIDERS -2.5 (win)

JohnnyQ (3-3)
FALCONS +1 (win)
COWBOYS -3.5 (win)
EAGLES -6.5 (win)
STEELERS -3.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
PANTHERS -1 (loss)

Gordonm888 (4-1)
SAINTS +3 (push)
COMMANDERS +3.5 (loss)
SEAHAWKS +4 (win)
CHARGERS -5 CONFIDENCE (win)
CARDINALS +1 (win)

GenWyzgy (3-3)
SEAHAWKS +4 (win)
EAGLES -6.5 (win)
RAVENS OVER 51 CONFIDENCE (loss)
BRONCOS +2.5 (loss)
CHARGERS OVER 45 (win)

JimRockford (0-4)
VIKINGS -3 (push)
VIKINGS UNDER 43.5 (loss)
LIONS -4 (loss)
BUCCANEERS 0 (loss)
RAMS +1.5 (loss)

Johnzimbo (0-5)
SAINTS -3 (push)
SAINTS UNDER 43.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
PACKERS -9.5 (loss)
PACKERS UNDER 40.5 (loss)
TEXANS UNDER 45 (loss)

Joeman (1-4)
VIKINGS -3 (push)
RAMS +1.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
JAGUARS +6.5 (loss)
CARDINALS +1 (win)
COWBOYS OVER 41.5 (loss)

AZDuffman (2-4)
BUCCANEERS UNDER 45.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
CARDINALS +1 (win)
JETS +3.5 (win)
BILLS OVER 51 (loss)
BROWNS OVER 47.5 (loss)

ksdjdj (3-3)
CHARGERS -5 (win)
SAINTS UNDER 43.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
49ERS OVER 42 (loss)
SEAHAWKS +4 (win)
JETS +3.5 (win)

Vegasbrent (1-4)
SAINTS +3 (push)
COMMANDERS +3.5 (loss)
BRONCOS +2.5 (loss)
BUCCANEERS 0 CONFIDENCE (loss)
49ERS -1.5 (win)

Wizard (2-2)
SAINTS +3 CONFIDENCE (push)
COMMANDERS +3.5 (loss)
SEAHAWKS +4 (win)
TITANS +3.5 (win)
BEARS +3 (loss)



Week 04 Standings

Name Wins Losses %
miplet 18 5 78.26%
Gordonm888 17 6 73.91%
FourFiveFace 17 7 70.83%
KSDJDJ 13 9 59.09%
Wizard 13 9 59.09%
IndyJeffrey 12 12 50.00%
PlayYourCardsRight 7 8 46.67%
AZDuffman 11 13 45.83%
JW17 10 13 43.48%
Vegasbrent 10 13 43.48%
GenWyzgy 10 14 41.67%
Joeman 9 14 39.13%
SOOPOO 9 14 39.13%
jml24 7 11 38.89%
JohnnyQ 7 11 38.89%
Gaming711 8 13 38.10%
JimRockford 6 10 37.50%
EdCollins 8 15 34.78%
Johnzimbo 5 17 22.73%
Totals 197 214 47.93%



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Week 01: miplet
Week 02: Gordonm88
Week 03: FourFiveFace
EdCollins
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October 3rd, 2022 at 8:07:10 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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October 3rd, 2022 at 8:13:37 PM permalink
8 of us 19 are BELOW 40%!


4-1 gets me within shouting distance of Mr. Average.
EdCollins
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October 3rd, 2022 at 10:57:25 PM permalink
Whoops. I forgot to post this Contest Ranking graphic, like I usually do:



As shown, only one player (miplet) has had a winning record all four weeks.

Only one other player (FourFiveFace) has had a non-losing record all four weeks.
JimRockford
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October 4th, 2022 at 7:00:46 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

8 of us 19 are BELOW 40%!


4-1 gets me within shouting distance of Mr. Average.
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Nice week SOOPOO, but never lay more than 3 on the Packets.
Quote:

SOOPOO (4-1)
CHIEFS 0 CONFIDENCE (win)
PACKETS -9.5 (loss)
JETS +3.5 (win)
CHARGERS -5 (win)
BILLS -3 (push)

"Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things." -- Isaac Newton
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October 4th, 2022 at 7:22:56 AM permalink
That's me...the defending champion...way down in last place. I have no feel for the games this season so I may just stay in the basement. Need to put in a skylight just to let some brightness in.
ksdjdj
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October 4th, 2022 at 10:44:41 PM permalink
I just want to make sure my odds are correct, when using the following assumptions:

(I) Only two people were in the competition
a) "Person A" is on 11 wins and 9 losses
b) "Person B" is on 10 wins and 10 losses
(2) Week 4 was the 2nd last week (so, week 5 is the final week of the comp).
(3) You have to make 5 picks, and there is no such thing as a "confidence pick".
(4) "Person A" and "Person B" are both "random pickers" (in other words "50/50 pickers")
(5) There are no tie-breaker rules (so in this version there is a chance of a "dead-heat").

Using the above assumptions, I get these as the "rounded fair odds" for the "week 5/ final week" results (see below)

Person A wins: -165
Player B wins: +482
Dead Heat: +388
SOOPOO
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:53:04 AM permalink
Quote: ksdjdj

I just want to make sure my odds are correct, when using the following assumptions:

(I) Only two people were in the competition
a) "Person A" is on 11 wins and 9 losses
b) "Person B" is on 10 wins and 10 losses
(2) Week 4 was the 2nd last week (so, week 5 is the final week of the comp).
(3) You have to make 5 picks, and there is no such thing as a "confidence pick".
(4) "Person A" and "Person B" are both "random pickers" (in other words "50/50 pickers")
(5) There are no tie-breaker rules (so in this version there is a chance of a "dead-heat").

Using the above assumptions, I get these as the "rounded fair odds" for the "week 5/ final week" results (see below)

Person A wins: -165
Player B wins: +482
Dead Heat: +388
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You can’t make an accurate calculation without knowing how frequently a tie (with the spread of course) occurs. You can do the calculation if there are only 1/2 point spreads resulting in no ties being possible.
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