Super Bowl 56 Prop Bets
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February 13th, 2022 at 7:10:40 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearFailed 2pt? In the replay, the kicker brought his leg around almost to the spot where the ball should have been.Quote: ksdjdjQuote: DJTeddyBear2nd qtr.
That’s a missed extra point, right?
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I guess it would depend which book you bet with.
If I was running a book I would call it a failed attempt 2-pt conversion.
But that is just me.
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And besides, don’t they line up further back for the 2pt play?
So I’m thinking no kick / failed extra point.
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The main reason I thought that was because if they had converted the 2 -pts , then I would have to pay the “yes - 2 pt conversion successful “ prop (as a hypothetical bookmaker)
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February 13th, 2022 at 7:16:02 PM
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Actually, they line up a LOT closer when attempting a 2-point conversion.Quote:And besides, don’t they line up further back for the 2pt play?
I think they line up on the 2-yard line for a 2-point try. For a 1-point try, when kicking it, they now line up on the 15-yard line.
February 13th, 2022 at 7:17:50 PM
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Failed 2pt? In the replay, the kicker brought his leg around almost to the spot where the ball should have been.Quote: ksdjdjQuote: DJTeddyBear2nd qtr.
That’s a missed extra point, right?
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I guess it would depend which book you bet with.
If I was running a book I would call it a failed attempt 2-pt conversion.
But that is just me.
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And besides, don’t they line up further back for the 2pt play?
So I’m thinking no kick / failed extra point.
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The main reason I thought that was because if they had converted the 2 -pts , then I would have to pay the “yes - 2 pt conversion successful “ prop (as a hypothetical bookmaker)
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More thought…. It will probably go down as a failed two point attempt. There was a pass thrown that if complete would have resulted in a two point conversion. Incomplete or intercepted results in a failed two point attempt. Technically, the starting yard line is irrelevant. And the kicker almost kicking the ball (I think?) is irrelevant as well.
After all the dust settles I think I’m up around $235 today. Mostly due to OBJ first TD. My 10 Caesars bets went 6-4 if the Rams had the longest scoring drive( I think they did?). Or 5-5 if not. So no free bet….
February 13th, 2022 at 7:19:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure that was an unsuccessful 1-point try. It was not a 2-point try from the start, nor do I believe it turned into 2-point try just because the holder dropped the ball and then attempted to pass it.
February 13th, 2022 at 7:20:42 PM
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Late in the 4th quarter, the commentator called it a missed extra point.
The first two results I saw in a google search agree.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2022/02/cincinnati-bengals-los-angeles-rams-super-bowl-lvi
https://sports.yahoo.com/super-bowl-betting-bettor-wins-2-1-million-bets-but-loses-other-million-on-botched-extra-point-015748688.html
The first two results I saw in a google search agree.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2022/02/cincinnati-bengals-los-angeles-rams-super-bowl-lvi
Quote:Super Bowl 2022: The Rams missed a PAT and it turned into absolute chaos
https://sports.yahoo.com/super-bowl-betting-bettor-wins-2-1-million-bets-but-loses-other-million-on-botched-extra-point-015748688.html
Quote:Super Bowl betting: Bettor wins 2 $1 million bets, but loses other million on botched extra point
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February 13th, 2022 at 7:29:34 PM
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I was just going by what I thought at the time. Happy to be wrong , especially if it means you won the bet.
I generally bet on the “no - for the successful 2-pt conversion “ during the regular season, so Out of curiosity it would have been interesting to me to see how that would have been graded , had it been successful.
I generally bet on the “no - for the successful 2-pt conversion “ during the regular season, so Out of curiosity it would have been interesting to me to see how that would have been graded , had it been successful.
February 14th, 2022 at 5:14:45 AM
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Caesars paid my bet on “will there be a 2 point conversion attempt = yes”.
Overall looks like I lost about $200 on the Super Bowl. Many of my bets had LA winning but I had bet overs on things that didn’t materialize. See example below.
MGM last night paid a bet on Kupp over 8.5 receptions (I had bet for $75 at +115). This morning they corrected it. Oh well. (He had 8 receptions).
Overall looks like I lost about $200 on the Super Bowl. Many of my bets had LA winning but I had bet overs on things that didn’t materialize. See example below.
MGM last night paid a bet on Kupp over 8.5 receptions (I had bet for $75 at +115). This morning they corrected it. Oh well. (He had 8 receptions).
If anyone gives you 10,000 to 1 on anything, you take it. If John Mellencamp ever wins an Oscar, I am going to be a very rich dude.
February 14th, 2022 at 5:39:55 AM
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Quote: TinManCaesars paid my bet on “will there be a 2 point conversion attempt = yes”.
Overall looks like I lost about $200 on the Super Bowl. Many of my bets had LA winning but I had bet overs on things that didn’t materialize. See example below.
MGM last night paid a bet on Kupp over 8.5 receptions (I had bet for $75 at +115). This morning they corrected it. Oh well. (He had 8 receptions).
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I won my ‘Chase over 3.5 yards rushing’ bet as a ‘pass’ he caught was actually considered a run as he was behind the QB. Maybe that’s what happened with Kupp? I had a bunch of overs that also missed. Had a long shot parlay that all hit except Stafford 290 yards or more. He had a chance on that last drive but they ran it successfully…
By the way, Bills and Chiefs open as co favorites to win next year’s SB.
February 14th, 2022 at 1:45:47 PM
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LOL, I had zero action on the SB. I started playing craps at 10:30 am and couldn’t quit until KO. I ended up winning $1800, at that point I just wanted to watch the game. Would have lost my No Touchback bet and take a bath on every Odell Beckham prop except for his TD. I really thought he was going to have a big game and be MVP, and was having a huge game before his injury
February 14th, 2022 at 3:49:30 PM
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Quote: TinManCaesars paid my bet on “will there be a 2 point conversion attempt = yes”.
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Most sports books that I bet with go by the "official ruling and or stats for most plays" using nfl.com or espn.com as their "official sources for the NFL".
Also, if they can't find an "official ruling, stat or figure", then they make an "in house judgment call", by looking at the replays from as many angles as available, etc.
For this bet, the "official results" of the play is a:
" Two-Point Pass Conversion Failed " ( https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/game/_/gameId/401326638 )
" (Kick formation) TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. J.Hekker pass to M.Gay is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS. DEFENSIVE TWO-POINT ATTEMPT. G.Pratt intercepted the try attempt. ATTEMPT FAILS. " ( https://www.nfl.com/games/rams-at-bengals-2021-post-4?active-tab=watch )
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Quote: SOOPOO(snip) I wonder if some of the sports books will pay off missed XP to garner good publicity?
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If I was running a book, most*** of the time I would pay the "yes" and the "no " for "missed XP" in that particular situation, as it is good from a "PR point of view".
***: If the book I was running lost on all the other SB bets combined , then I would either grade it just by the "official results" or "refund the money on the yes - missed XP".
February 14th, 2022 at 6:34:04 PM
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Can anyone find a video clip of that play? I was only half paying attention, but recall thinking it could turn into a one-point safety. I'm told by the expert I piggyback on that the books graded it as a failed two-point conversion attempted.
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February 14th, 2022 at 8:21:23 PM
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Quote: WizardCan anyone find a video clip of that play? I was only half paying attention, but recall thinking it could turn into a one-point safety. I'm told by the expert I piggyback on that the books graded it as a failed two-point conversion attempted.
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This is the only video I can find so far >>> twitter_video
February 14th, 2022 at 8:32:31 PM
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Quote: WizardCan anyone find a video clip of that play? I was only half paying attention, but recall thinking it could turn into a one-point safety. I'm told by the expert I piggyback on that the books graded it as a failed two-point conversion attempted.
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It had that possibility as the play was unfolding.
So I got VERY LUCKY. I thought I was 6/10 on my 10 Caesars picks. Thus missing the $56 free bet. However, my (larger) bet on ‘touchback’ was counted as my first bet in the sequence of 10, thus I ended up7-3 on first 10 prop bets. So I can now use that $56 free bet.
I’m not sure what I am going to do with my $2 from ‘no successful onside kick’.
February 15th, 2022 at 3:22:40 AM
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Quote: ksdjdjThis is the only video I can find so far >>> twitter_video
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One video is enough. It looks to me like holder deliberately pulled back the ball, like Lucy would do on Charlie Brown, to pull a surprise two-point conversion. I didn't know you were allowed to do that. Seems right to me it gets filed as a failed two-point conversion. Glad I didn't bet the no on that, as I have been known to do.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 15th, 2022 at 4:07:30 AM
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Quote: WizardQuote: ksdjdjThis is the only video I can find so far >>> twitter_video
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One video is enough. It looks to me like holder deliberately pulled back the ball, like Lucy would do on Charlie Brown, to pull a surprise two-point conversion. I didn't know you were allowed to do that. Seems right to me it gets filed as a failed two-point conversion. Glad I didn't bet the no on that, as I have been known to do.
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You don’t watch enough football! There is NO WAY that was an intentional two point attempt pre planned by the Rams. That went out the window when the rules were changed moving a one point try to the 15 yard line, while keeping the two point try at the 2 yard line.
Was your biggest win on ‘no safety’?
February 15th, 2022 at 4:09:03 AM
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Quote: WizardQuote: ksdjdjThis is the only video I can find so far >>> twitter_video
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One video is enough. It looks to me like holder deliberately pulled back the ball, like Lucy would do on Charlie Brown, to pull a surprise two-point conversion. I didn't know you were allowed to do that. Seems right to me it gets filed as a failed two-point conversion. Glad I didn't bet the no on that, as I have been known to do.
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That angle does appear to be a Lucy. But the side angle close up they ran during the game showed the holder muff the hold (it falls from his finger), and the holder only yanks the ball back when it was falling. So I believe it was not intentional.
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February 15th, 2022 at 4:28:01 AM
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Quote: unJonThat angle does appear to be a Lucy. But the side angle close up they ran during the game showed the holder muff the hold (it falls from his finger), and the holder only yanks the ball back when it was falling. So I believe it was not intentional.
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I think you're right and I stand corrected. If you go to the Twitter video and hold the time lever above the V in views you can see the ball fall down right before the holder pulls it away.
One could then make the argument then it was a failed PAT attempt, but, if forced, it still seems reasonable to me, with my limited knowledge of the fine points of football rules, to count it as a failed two-point conversion attempt, since the ball was never kicked.
Somebody asked if I bet the no safety. The best line I ever saw was -900, which is still a decent bet. However, this was about an hour before the game, there was a long line to make bets, and I didn't have a huge amount of money on me, so I didn't fuss with it. I did make $75 against DJTB and billryan.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 15th, 2022 at 4:45:28 AM
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That’s what I was thinking too.Quote: SOOPOOThere is NO WAY that was an intentional two point attempt pre planned by the Rams. That went out the window when the rules were changed moving a one point try to the 15 yard line, while keeping the two point try at the 2 yard line.
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After it wasn’t kicked, if they got the ball into the end zone, how would it be scored? 1 point or 2?
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February 15th, 2022 at 5:37:19 AM
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2 points. (Otherwise the books would not have scored it as an unsuccessful TWO-point try.)Quote: DJTeddyBearAfter it wasn’t kicked, if they got the ball into the end zone, how would it be scored? 1 point or 2?
I agree... if the ball had been KICKED that would then be considered a 1-point try. Because it was never kicked, their actions following turned it into a 2-point try.
After the Bengals intercepted that desperate and foolish pass attempt, if they had been successful in running it back, they also would have scored two points. (Trivia: Back in December in 2015, during Week 13, the New Orleans Saints became the first team to block an extra point attempt and return it all the way for two points. This was against the Carolina Panthers.)
And yes, a couple of closeup views during the game clearly show the Rams holder accidentally letting go of the ball too early. This was not something drawn up or planned.
February 15th, 2022 at 6:03:08 AM
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Quote: WizardCan anyone find a video clip of that play? I was only half paying attention, but recall thinking it could turn into a one-point safety. I'm told by the expert I piggyback on that the books graded it as a failed two-point conversion attempted.
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I also thought about a 1 point safety at one point during the game. I don't remember the play but I have still never seen a sportsbook offer a prop on one point safety. I realize that it has never happened in the history of the NFL, but it does happen occasionally in college.
The last one that I remember happened in a bowl game about 10 years ago.
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February 15th, 2022 at 10:24:07 AM
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Quote: DRichI don't remember the play but I have still never seen a sportsbook offer a prop on one point safety.
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Neither have I. If I ran a sportsbook, I'd offer a prop on that. If one happened, I'd probably lose my job over it.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
