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June 7th, 2019 at 3:37:06 AM permalink
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...Most online books are +4.5, but there are still quite a few vegas books @ +5.0 (vegas insider) for the Raptors (so Raptors punters should back them now, if they haven't already)
Warriors punters should still hold off, and take a punt that the closing line will be the same or better than -4.5.....
...Note:, 5 hours from now will probably be my last update (as I will be away from the internet/ my computer for 18-20 hours after that)....


There will be no new updates by me until after this game.

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I saw "the Lowry incident" on youtube and to me it wasn't much of a shove ( I think the video i saw was slowed down a bit though).
IMO: The guy should have just been banned for the rest of the finals, "forced" to make a public apology to Lowry, the NBA and the fans, pay close to whatever the minimum fine is for this sort of "minor assault", and make a 10k-20k donation to a charity of the NBA's or Lowry's choosing (if Lowry was not injured from the incident***).
***: I am assuming that he didn't direct any "hate speech" against Lowry during the incident, right?
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June 7th, 2019 at 5:04:22 AM permalink
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There will be no new updates by me until after this game.

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I saw "the Lowry incident" on youtube and to me it wasn't much of a shove ( I think the video i saw was slowed down a bit though).
IMO: The guy should have just been banned for the rest of the finals, "forced" to make a public apology to Lowry, the NBA and the fans, pay close to whatever the minimum fine is for this sort of "minor assault", and make a 10k-20k donation to a charity of the NBA's or Lowry's choosing (if Lowry was not injured from the incident***).
***: I am assuming that he didn't direct any "hate speech" against Lowry during the incident, right?



There was something said to Lowry with the shove that was offensive but I don't know what it was. So it's hard to say ZK's racism rant was totally ridiculous. But based on the shove alone, ZK's rant was totally ridiculous.

They were playing a hard, physical game, with heavy audience involvement. Lowry hard-fouled a couple times himself. The clown owner let himself get personally involved. He would have shoved any Raptor, regardless of color, who had come within reach lime that.
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June 7th, 2019 at 5:17:28 AM permalink
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***: I am assuming that he didn't direct any "hate speech" against Lowry during the incident, right?



Nope
He was cursing at Lowry
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June 7th, 2019 at 5:18:41 AM permalink
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I cant help but laugh at this shoving incident. If it was a black fan pushing a black player the player wouldnt have gotten that mad or cried wolf to the NBA to ban him and neither would all the black analysts on TV as well as former black NBA players be up in arms about this incident. The black community loves to pull the race card every chance they get, well guess what it's time to throw it right back at them because what we have here is nothing but hypocrisy.

Lets face it, black people are very insecure evem to thos day and still live with the chip on their shoulder since the slavery days of being seen as inferior to white people, especially white rich priveleged people. So when something as simple as this little shove happens their insecurity really shows. Kyle Lowry probably felt so 'disrespected' after being shoved by a white rich priveleged man and that's the real issue here. It really has nothing to do with him being 'shoved'.

Damn im so ahead of everything. I have a gift of just reading everyone and everything. God help the poker community if i ever play poker in my life. I can basically disect what a person is thinking at any given time based on how they respond, act, body language, past information, as well as numerous other variables that also allow me to filter out reverse tells.



wow
Pretty racist rant
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June 7th, 2019 at 6:09:51 AM permalink
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Damn im so ahead of everything. I have a gift of just reading everyone and everything. God help the poker community if i ever play poker in my life. I can basically disect what a person is thinking at any given time based on how they respond, act, body language, past information, as well as numerous other variables that also allow me to filter out reverse tells.



...... newsflash, everyone on this forum has the same view of themselves. You should have already known that.... but you did. ha
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June 7th, 2019 at 2:08:01 PM permalink
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There was something said to Lowry with the shove that was offensive but I don't know what it was. So it's hard to say ZK's racism rant was totally ridiculous. But based on the shove alone, ZK's rant was totally ridiculous.

They were playing a hard, physical game, with heavy audience involvement. Lowry hard-fouled a couple times himself. The clown owner let himself get personally involved. He would have shoved any Raptor, regardless of color, who had come within reach lime that.



You misread my post which seems to happen every single time on these forums. I was talking about KYLE LOWRY not the owner. KYLE LOWRY, black nba players, and the whole black community are the ones that feels insecure about white people who shove them or think theyre 'above' them. You've even seen it with Russell Westbrook with Utah fans. You see it with LeBron always crying about racism about owners etc. Stephen A smith the analyst etc etc.

If it was a black fan who did that to lowry he wouldnt he even care or at least not as much as he's making it out to be. That shove probably made Lowry feel 'disrespected' and seen as 'inferior' to the white rich priveleged man. How could you have possible misunderstood my post and then call it ridiculous?
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June 7th, 2019 at 2:12:00 PM permalink
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the whole black community are the ones that feels insecure about white people who shove them




The nerve of those black people!!
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June 7th, 2019 at 2:24:10 PM permalink
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The nerve of those black people!!



There IS a certain thing as 'white privelege' in this country even to this day so i understand where their insecurity and bitterness comes from but they never do themselves any favors either. They need to come together as a race and rise above. They need to get into high execuitve level positions that society respects. Invent something for society thats never been seen before or create a breakthrough in science. Become a top level respected doctor or lawyer that performs life saving surgeries and wins high profile cases. Become a high standard in society and organically grow as a race and all this insecurity naturally goes out the window.

Theyll get more 'respect' from society as a whole such as from cops and wont be profiled as easily. Most of the cop incidents against black people are also misleading. The black people do get profiled but then their insecurity theyre being railroaded they fire back with attitudes or running away, not knowing their rights, etc and cause the cops to take action. Most of them also all have warrants or some type of criminal history but that doesnt stop them from them talking about black lives matter or Police Brutality crap. They need to stop crying and being insecure and do something in society other than being a professional athlete or an entertainer.

Thank me later.
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June 7th, 2019 at 2:50:08 PM permalink
Yeah, ZK.

Yeah, I'm sure if a black fan attacked a white athlete or performer and told them to eff off, nobody would even notice.

I bet if Lawry had gone into the stands and assaulted a white fan who had done absolutely nothing to him, we'd already have forgotten it.

The only reason you can't go to sporting events and assault the players is that someone might pull the race card. Other than that, it's not really a big deal.

I wish I was born in the 1700s when you could just go around attacking and insulting people at random and nobody minded, as the founding fathers intended.

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, "forced" to make a public apology to Lowry, the NBA and the fans



Personally, I hate these fake, forced, public apologies. If the guy regrets what he did, that's good. If he sincerely wants to express his regret, that's fine. It's not that relevant to what happened.

The guy crossed a line that cannot be crossed.

In that sense, it's similar to Pete Rose and what people don't get about that case. It's not that these guys are better or worse than someone who drives drunk or beats their wives. It's that the sports, as institutions, cannot allow certain things to occur.

You can't allow players/managers to have betting action on the games they are playing.

You can't allow fans to attack players. And you really, really can't tolerate it from within your own organization.
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June 7th, 2019 at 3:06:19 PM permalink
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Yeah, ZK.

Yeah, I'm sure if a black fan attacked a white athlete or performer and told them to eff off, nobody would even notice.

I bet if Lawry had gone into the stands and assaulted a white fan who had done absolutely nothing to him, we'd already have forgotten it.

The only reason you can't go to sporting events and assault the players is that someone might pull the race card. Other than that, it's not really a big deal.

I wish I was born in the 1700s when you could just go around attacking and insulting people at random and nobody minded, as the founding fathers intended.



Personally, I hate these fake, forced, public apologies. If the guy regrets what he did, that's good. If he sincerely wants to express his regret, that's fine. It's not that relevant to what happened.

The guy crossed a line that cannot be crossed.

In that sense, it's similar to Pete Rose and what people don't get about that case. It's not that these guys are better or worse than someone who drives drunk or beats their wives. It's that the sports, as institutions, cannot allow certain things to occur.

You can't allow players/managers to have betting action on the games they are playing.

You can't allow fans to attack players. And you really, really can't tolerate it from within your own organization.



Cant tell if youre being sarcastic. If you are, then you also misread my posts and are talking about different scenarios i didnt even mention. The whole point is if the fan were black THIS would be a NON-ISSUE. If a black fan did that little shove to lowry, lowry wouldve never reacted the way he did or cry to the nba to get him banned lifetime. If the fan in Utah was black talking to westbrook he wouldnt have reacted the way he did either.

The whole black community is insecure and still feel inferior to white people as well as still disrespected, thats why they react the way they do. Do you ever see white people being offended if a black guy calls him a cracker or whatever racial slur to diminutize them? But as soon as a white guy calls a black person the N word, the black people react strongly and angrily and cry racism. Thats all a sign of insecurity. Black people need to rise abjove it and do what i said originally to overcome this.

Damn im so smart.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.

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