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February 5th, 2014 at 10:16:22 AM permalink
All sports bettors should know Mayweather's name. The lines on his fights have been way off because the public wants plus money and most like to root against him. Mayweather -250 v. Canelo was one of the best sports bets I've ever made. Should've been -500 at least.
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February 5th, 2014 at 11:45:45 AM permalink
Quote: 1arrowheaddr

All sports bettors should know Mayweather's name. The lines on his fights have been way off because the public wants plus money and most like to root against him. Mayweather -250 v. Canelo was one of the best sports bets I've ever made. Should've been -500 at least.



all music lovers should know the name of the number one calypso singer in the world.

all ballroom dances should now the names of the top ballerinas


and all sports bettors should know the name of boxers even if they never bet on them.


if I said that I bet on ALL sports.....then you have a point.

But just because you follow this mayweather guy, doesnt mean I have to. Nor do I care who justin timberlakes new girlfriend is. Nor do I care is Pele was the best soccer player...since hes the only soccer play I can name.

I cant tell you who the Secretary General of the United Nations is....although I habe probably watched many news casts where he/she was a topic of discussion....where his/her name was mentioned. But as that really doesnt interest me..I dont make a point to notice, memorize, or even pay full attention.

Same with boxers...I have seen on TV or heard on the radio discussions of boxing.....but like the Secretary General of the United Nations.......it doesnt interest me...I dont pay attention, memorize, or mentally even acknowldge it as something impiortant or of interest.
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February 5th, 2014 at 3:30:54 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

as the self proclaimed arbitor of what makes "a good sports bettor" I dissagree.

I am a big music fan...but I couldnt name the top 3 soprano opera stars in the world
I like to dance.....but I couldnt name any ballerinas
And I am a sports bettor, but I couldnt name a soccer player even though soccer is the most popular game in the world

My interests in life, do not revolve around the standard that your girlfriend has evidently established.

People who punch each other in the head do not interest me. Its as simple as that.

And since I don't know from which side a payoff came....I have no idea what a judge might score. A "GOOD SPORTS BETTOR" doesnt have that kind of info.

We have defiantly established self proclaimed, no need to rub it in.

I bet you know one soccer players name. You probably don't realize it.

Some of your examples are a bit wild.
If I told you, I was a good sports bettor and you asked me who Lebron James was, and I didn't know, would you not raise an eyebrow.
If I said I loved to fix cars and was a fair mechanic , but I didn't know what a fuse was and claimed, I'm not a electrician, what would you think? Would you take his advice or respect his opinion or even listen next time he started talking about fixing cars?

My GF's standards has nothing to do with what is fairly common knowledge, Even if you have no interest in sports.
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February 5th, 2014 at 4:32:39 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

We have defiantly established self proclaimed, no need to rub it in.

I bet you know one soccer players name. You probably don't realize it.

Some of your examples are a bit wild.
If I told you, I was a good sports bettor and you asked me who Lebron James was, and I didn't know, would you not raise an eyebrow.
If I said I loved to fix cars and was a fair mechanic , but I didn't know what a fuse was and claimed, I'm not a electrician, what would you think? Would you take his advice or respect his opinion or even listen next time he started talking about fixing cars?

My GF's standards has nothing to do with what is fairly common knowledge, Even if you have no interest in sports.



it vexes you that i choose not to pay attention to individulas that partake in a brutal vile form of entertainment, that I have no interest in. If i were an opponent of the sport..I would know these peoples names and be bashing them individually.

However I feel there are people in our society who need this blood sport and its fine with me.

the participants are not my heros. I am not interested in their personal lives. And I dont remember their names because they have no impact on my life or my betting.

For people who love the "sweet science" they are entitled to cheer for the multiple concussions. They can chear for the swollen eye that cant see. They can cheer for the bloody broken nose. and they can cheer....moore moore...keep going you wuss.

But as they do that...I am researching my next bet in basketball, hockey, football, or baseball.

and for the life of me I could not name the best team or the best qb in the CFL....EVEN THOUGH ITS AVAILABLE FOR ME TO BET.

when u have heros..I know its hard to believe that everyone in the world doesnt know about him/her

you will get over it.

I cant keep rehashing this stupid topic

it doesnt phase me what "you cant believe" or "cant understand"

you wll have to just realize that the self centered view of the world that what you find interesting is what I find interesting...what you know....I must know......doesnt exist

I might feel bad if I didnt know the name of someone who is of real significance in my life....but mayweather...is so insignificant, so far removed from my interests, so brutal and vulgar in his occupation....that I choose not to acknowledge these people inhabit the planet. I take no mental note of them...and just live my life.

If i were to go on a crusade like Howard Cosell against boxing, I would certainly know everyones name. But I have chosen for a couple of decades to accept that it will always be around for peoples pleasure.....and just ignore it. Lifes too short. You can follow these people....and I just calmly go on with my life.

and THAT eats away at some people.....because after all the science is sooooooo "sweet"
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February 5th, 2014 at 4:33:27 PM permalink
Another totally sick sport-full contact ultimate fighting.
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February 5th, 2014 at 7:19:49 PM permalink
I don't do sports bets, but something in the article linked caught my eye--

2006 $8,828,431 $6,857,101 9.3% Pittsburgh 21, Seattle 10

What was going on in 2006 to make the amount booked less than a tenth of what it was the year before and the year after? Even if it was a totally unexpected matchup or something, I'd expect to see action than that...
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February 5th, 2014 at 9:10:05 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS



But as they do that...I am researching my next bet in basketball, hockey, football, or baseball.


when u have heros..I know its hard to believe that everyone in the world doesnt know about him/her

you will get over it.

He is not or ever was my hero. So I have nothing to get over as far as that goes. I just find it strange a successful sports bettor could do the research needed without inadvertently learning of Boxing greats even if you trying to block out. It's like saying you are a self proclaimed musician researching Rap, Rock, blues and R&B but don't know anything about Madonna. Perhaps you use a telegraph to do your sports research.
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February 5th, 2014 at 9:10:06 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS


edit

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 5th, 2014 at 9:22:14 PM permalink
Quote: Venthus

I don't do sports bets, but something in the article linked caught my eye--

2006 $8,828,431 $6,857,101 9.3% Pittsburgh 21, Seattle 10

What was going on in 2006 to make the amount booked less than a tenth of what it was the year before and the year after? Even if it was a totally unexpected matchup or something, I'd expect to see action than that...



It's a typo. I think the win is right. That would make the handle about $74m.
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February 6th, 2014 at 10:24:05 AM permalink
researching Rap, Rock, blues and R&B but don't know anything about Madonna.>>>


this is too easy.

If I said I was a sports bettor of NFL , NHL and Boxing....and didnt know a boxers name.....that would be a valid comparison to above.
or If i indicated I BET ON EVERY SPORT......which would include boxing, soccer,CF, golf, car racing. horse racing. indoor football, MMA.....then I would be expected to know about individuals in those sports

But if I say I am a music fan of, or reasercher for Rap , rock, R&B and never heard of Olivia Bonelli an opera soprano......who cares. As long as I am well versed in the music I claim to like or like to research.

If I say I am a music fan, doesnt mean I am a fan of every music available on Amazon. If someone says they are a music fan or researcher....does that mean that they should be able to hold a conversation on Irish folk music? American Folk Music? Cajun music? Calypso music?

A reasonable person wold ask..."how interesting, you reasearch music......what types of music have you done research on" and then when they tell you...I am a contributor for rolling stone and research and follow rock, abd rap......you drop the name Sophie Bevan.......and when you get a blank stare...you complain how surprised you are he doesnt know anything about opera.
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February 6th, 2014 at 10:37:51 AM permalink
Quote: LarryS

it vexes you that i choose not to pay attention to individulas that partake in a brutal vile form of entertainment, that I have no interest in. If i were an opponent of the sport..I would know these peoples names and be bashing them individually.

However I feel there are people in our society who need this blood sport and its fine with me.

the participants are not my heros. I am not interested in their personal lives. And I dont remember their names because they have no impact on my life or my betting.

For people who love the "sweet science" they are entitled to cheer for the multiple concussions. They can chear for the swollen eye that cant see. They can cheer for the bloody broken nose. and they can cheer....moore moore...keep going you wuss.

But as they do that...I am researching my next bet in basketball, hockey, football, or baseball.

and for the life of me I could not name the best team or the best qb in the CFL....EVEN THOUGH ITS AVAILABLE FOR ME TO BET.

when u have heros..I know its hard to believe that everyone in the world doesnt know about him/her

you will get over it.

I cant keep rehashing this stupid topic

it doesnt phase me what "you cant believe" or "cant understand"

you wll have to just realize that the self centered view of the world that what you find interesting is what I find interesting...what you know....I must know......doesnt exist

I might feel bad if I didnt know the name of someone who is of real significance in my life....but mayweather...is so insignificant, so far removed from my interests, so brutal and vulgar in his occupation....that I choose not to acknowledge these people inhabit the planet. I take no mental note of them...and just live my life.

If i were to go on a crusade like Howard Cosell against boxing, I would certainly know everyones name. But I have chosen for a couple of decades to accept that it will always be around for peoples pleasure.....and just ignore it. Lifes too short. You can follow these people....and I just calmly go on with my life.

and THAT eats away at some people.....because after all the science is sooooooo "sweet"



WTF?
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February 6th, 2014 at 10:53:01 AM permalink
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WTF?



You actually read the whole thing?
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February 6th, 2014 at 10:55:42 AM permalink
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You actually read the whole thing?



LOL
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February 6th, 2014 at 11:05:32 AM permalink
Quote: LarryS

it vexes you that i choose not to pay attention to individulas that partake in a brutal vile form of entertainment, that I have no interest in. If i were an opponent of the sport..I would know these peoples names and be bashing them individually.



What vexes me has nothing to do with your position on boxing, or mma, or dogfighting, or [insert violent sport].

What confuses me is a self-proclaimed sports bettor such as yourself who obviously spends considerable time analyzing games based on your posts, doesn't know who Floyd Merriweather is given the legendary size of some of his sports bets? I would think you would recognize his name no matter what his profession was since he makes some of the largest legal sports wagers of anybody.
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February 6th, 2014 at 11:23:55 AM permalink
Larry, I believe specialization is one of the better ways get good results from SB, and so I totally understand that.

I think most people's perspective can put as: You know who Billy Walters is, right? That is why people are surprised. FM may not be a pro but he is something of a well publicized whale, that is why folks are surprised.
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February 6th, 2014 at 11:24:02 AM permalink
Why do so many of you care if Larry knows who Mayweather is or not??? Who cares; move on with your life, I sure hope this doesn't effect you that much that it needs this much discussion. Wasn't the thread about the total handle of the Super Bowl in Las Vegas?
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February 6th, 2014 at 12:09:08 PM permalink
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Why do so many of you care if Larry knows who Mayweather is or not??? Who cares; move on with your life, I sure hope this doesn't effect you that much that it needs this much discussion. Wasn't the thread about the total handle of the Super Bowl in Las Vegas?



good going

who should really be "surprised" on what I know or dont know. People think they know me based on some posts. I can be "surprised" if my wife doesnt know something...but thats because I know her well. But who the heck am I to pick a nameless faceless individual that I never even met.....and be "surprised" about anything.

And no where in this thread have I said that I never heard of mayweather. I just couldnt remember his name. Its not a person that I care to think or know about....it gets filed in the back of my mind with the name of the General Secretary of the United Nations,....if you mention the name I will say..oh yeah....thats it,

bUt who the heck even cares if I can remember the name of the female race car drive that does commercials....I cant remember her name now...but if you posted it..I would remember.

this mayweather guy is not a name I need to remember, or need to recall. I refered to him when I asked the original question.

for people to be shocked that I couldnt recall the guys name...and extrapolates that to it means I never heard of him...that a huge leap

but if thats what they want to debate...thats fine

But liek you said....what normal people really need to debate what I need to remember at the time of a post.

My originaL post had nothing to do with the person...and all to do with wondering if a casino would take a large bet like that.

but all I get is OMG OMG..i cant belive you dont know who the guy is

pretty funny
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February 6th, 2014 at 12:40:28 PM permalink
Quote: Knuckleball3

Why do so many of you care if Larry knows who Mayweather is or not??? Who cares; move on with your life, I sure hope this doesn't effect you that much that it needs this much discussion. Wasn't the thread about the total handle of the Super Bowl in Las Vegas?


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February 6th, 2014 at 12:44:34 PM permalink
A couple of weeks ago the dealer at my table was discussing the Super Bowl with the floor. When they asked my thoughts I joked that I don't follow basketball. Well, it was like I had committed blasphemy. After the long silence I told them I was kidding but I'm not sure they believed me.
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February 6th, 2014 at 1:17:32 PM permalink
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February 6th, 2014 at 1:45:53 PM permalink
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February 6th, 2014 at 3:20:10 PM permalink
So, I'm not clear... whose Floyd Mayweather again?
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February 6th, 2014 at 3:22:19 PM permalink
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So, I'm not clear... whose Floyd Mayweather again?



From this thread, I've gathered that he's someone who anyone even remotely familiar with sports betting knows a lot about.
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February 6th, 2014 at 3:23:42 PM permalink
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LarryS is a little sensitive to the plight of the race horse as well as the boxer.....admirable, but this post might send him over the top.
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February 6th, 2014 at 6:28:39 PM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

Quote: AcesAndEights

THANK YOU.
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LarryS is a little sensitive to the plight of the race horse as well as the boxer.....admirable, but this post might send him over the top.



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February 6th, 2014 at 6:30:14 PM permalink
I think you guys finally broke Larry's brain. It's stuck in an infinite loop.
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February 6th, 2014 at 6:47:19 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

From this thread, I've gathered that he's someone who anyone even remotely familiar with sports betting knows a lot about.



if anyone knows "alot" about a man they are not interested in.....they have too much time on their hands...and are the type of person that could recite dialogue from the original Star Trek episode AND still lives home with mom and dad

I know "alot" about many things and have been paid well for it......and I know "alot" about the games I bet on...and have been paid modestly for it with a profit...but I admit....I do not know "alot" about things or people I have no interest in.

i live a very good life with a home in california, and a home in sparks nevada, 2 successful grown children......and a great education which allows me to live how I want.....and believe it or not...I have done it all without knowing "alot" about a particular boxer.

Knowing "alot" about mayweather, has obviously put you in greater financial standing as this knowledge is obviously the key to your success and allows you to be the judge of whats needed for success.
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February 6th, 2014 at 11:53:02 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS


Knowing "alot" about mayweather, has obviously put you in greater financial standing as this knowledge is obviously the key to your success and allows you to be the judge of whats needed for success.



LarryS, Mayweather has never lost. So, if someone had bet on him each and every fight, he/she would be quite rich especially if betting all the money won again and again. I think you have lost some of the plot and that being the guy has never lost.
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February 7th, 2014 at 8:50:28 AM permalink
................"if"

you mean if someone went to the sports book and put 100 dollars down on his first fight and told the casino you would like to make it a parlay that covers the next 20 years of fights...and if he doesnt lose over the next 20 years you will pick up your winnings....thats a nice fantasy But if what you say is true....and he never lost...I would imagine that at least some of those fights were a bad value. Maybe goung at, -400 when it should be -250.
In any sport, just because the person or team is apparently going to win..doesnt mean that its a worthy bet,

its a nice dream world you speak of

and IF more people bet on seattle in the superbowl..they would be alot better off financially

meanwhile my life is just fine with knowing little about boxing....really dont worry about me. I am sure you are more well off than me. But I have managed to survive with my lifestyle as it is without your or anyone elses approval or by having to live up to your standards and expectations
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February 7th, 2014 at 7:38:43 PM permalink
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................"if"

meanwhile my life is just fine with knowing little about boxing....really dont worry about me. I am sure you are more well off than me. But I have managed to survive with my lifestyle as it is without your or anyone elses approval or by having to live up to your standards and expectations



I didn't realize you were so upset with this discussion. I thought it was the internet and friendly banter. I apologize for upsetting you. There are many "standards" we all have individually. I for example won't bet on dog fights but am(was) an avid cock fighting bettor and even a trainer at one point. I've seen a crowd of 10,000.people in Manila for chicken fights! It's about the gambling, not the "sport" as many would argue boxing is as well.

Another member mentioned the UFC which is without a doubt much more brutal human vs. human contact "sport" and now has odds posted in Vegas sportsbooks.
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February 7th, 2014 at 10:46:17 PM permalink
Should not any threads about cock fighting be moved to Diversity Tomorrow ? Just asking.
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