LarryS
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December 31st, 2013 at 4:42:52 PM permalink
While we are on the topic of tracks closing...I pose the following question that I always thought about.

Are horses smart enough to understand the concept of "racing" or "beating another horse".
I keep hearing people giving horses human qualities...like "he was a great competitor", "she had great heart"

I mean sometimes they wear blinkers and cant see if they are "winning"....if indeed thay understand the concept of "winning"

I know dogs dont understand the concept of "winning a race"....they are simply chasing a make believe mechanical rabbit.

But is that the case..or is it just a animal that is bright enough to recognize that if they get whipped they should go faster, or else they will get whipped some more. Or an animal that learned its advantageous to do what the jockey wants or the whip comes out.


I kind of compare a horese to a dog. If I am walking my dog along the edge of the grand canyon....and i fall over the edge....the dog will stay there and bark, and bark looking for me. But with a horse...it would just walk away....into the distance without looking back.
Buzzard
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December 31st, 2013 at 4:45:06 PM permalink
Gee Larry, your last statement seems to prove the intelligence of horses.
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sodawater
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December 31st, 2013 at 4:45:27 PM permalink
it's not about understanding the concept of racing. it's an instinctual desire to run the fastest and run ahead of other pack horses. some champion horses have very strong instincts in this regard.
LarryS
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December 31st, 2013 at 4:51:59 PM permalink
as i stated in the opening...Its a posed question


I am sorry you didnt comprehend


however if you have a thought or some studies that prove one way or another that horses understand the concept of beating other horeses in a race....I would be happy to read it.

and falling over the edge of the grand canyon does not mandate that you fall to the bottom. you could be hanging by your fingernails on a rock or vegitation....and as the dog barks to call attention...the horse walks away.

If you were in trouble would u want lassie to help you....or flicka

my money is on lassie.

and I think neither understand the concept of winning a race
LarryS
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December 31st, 2013 at 4:53:12 PM permalink
and wearing blinkers hinders their instinct?
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December 31st, 2013 at 4:53:35 PM permalink
And some very good race horses have been known to just stop competing when whipped. There is even a stakes race at Pimlico named after Mister Diz. Ben's Cat has won that race the last 4 years.
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December 31st, 2013 at 4:55:02 PM permalink
In your latest example, the horse definitely makes the right decision.
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December 31st, 2013 at 5:03:49 PM permalink
I love seeing intelligence in animals. Before I came back to Vegas from AZ, I was staying at this guys house i met at the casino. He had like 3 generations of cats he'd feed in his backyard. The cat I have now I got from there and she only has one eye. She was like the grandmother of the bunch and the most dominant one. I would perform social experiments on them by setting out a different number of food bowls. If I set out only one bowl, the one eyed cat would stand over it. She wouldn't eat anything but would hiss at any other cat that got close. One cat was smart enough however to sneak around to her blind side and swipe some food out of the bowl without her noticing and scamper away.
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December 31st, 2013 at 5:16:31 PM permalink
Horses are being trained in Search and Rescue work... after several dogs were brought in via a trail but nothing happened. One horse was being ridden over that trail towards the search area but simply stopped on the trail. When given free rein, the horse turned off the trail and walked to the missing person who all searchers thought had to have been dead but was still alive. The dogs didn't react because he was not a cadaver, the horse had well...horse sense!

Racing? Animals play games all the time. And they take turns.
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December 31st, 2013 at 5:36:10 PM permalink
The other day I was out hiking with my friends who brought their dog named Hawk with. I started wandering away from the group so the dog runs towards me, barks, and turns around. I think that was her way to signal me to come back to the group.

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