Super Bowl 47 Safety and Extra Point Props
February 3rd, 2013 at 10:46:56 AM
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"And it's headed to overtime, tied 8 to 8. The Niners' safety on the kickoff following Akers's missed extra point forced the Ravens to successfully go for two after returning a fumble for a touchdown on the final play of regulation! What a ball game!"
February 3rd, 2013 at 11:03:48 AM
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Quote: sodawater"And it's headed to overtime, tied 8 to 8. The Niners' safety on the kickoff following Akers's missed extra point forced the Ravens to successfully go for two after returning a fumble for a touchdown on the final play of regulation! What a ball game!"
To top it off, the Ravens win it. I'm a horrible fan, after betting $2000 on SF money line.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 3rd, 2013 at 11:07:04 AM
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Quote: WizardTo top it off, the Ravens win it. I'm a horrible fan, after betting $2000 on SF money line.
So, will you be happier if you win or lose this bet? :)
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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:24:12 PM
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Both Red Rock and Rampart are now -900 on no safety.
February 3rd, 2013 at 3:03:37 PM
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speaking of safeties, i was looking at station casinos prop bets and they had a bet for exact points scored by ravens (49ers had the same odds for these two bets). 2pts was +200,000 and 4pts was only double that at +400,000.
February 3rd, 2013 at 3:05:01 PM
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Quote: rudeboyoispeaking of safeties, i was looking at station casinos prop bets and they had a bet for exact points scored by ravens (49ers had the same odds for these two bets). 2pts was +200,000 and 4pts was only double that at +400,000.
I'm actually surprised 2pts is so high, considering a playoff game ended with a team with 2 points just last year!
February 3rd, 2013 at 3:22:38 PM
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Oh, this National Anthem is going OVER!
February 3rd, 2013 at 3:24:59 PM
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I think Alicia put a few thousand on the over!
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February 3rd, 2013 at 3:26:16 PM
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Quote: boymimboI think Alicia put a few thousand on the over!
I clocked 2:35...lol
February 3rd, 2013 at 7:48:36 PM
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safety lulz
February 3rd, 2013 at 7:49:45 PM
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Well, the safety ruined another Super Bowl for me. Still, I had only a 6.1% loss.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 3rd, 2013 at 7:55:37 PM
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Quote: WizardWell, the safety ruined another Super Bowl for me. Still, I had only a 6.1% loss.
Not bad considering the safety result! :)
February 3rd, 2013 at 7:57:03 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneNot bad considering the safety result! :)
And a big money line bet on SF, no?
February 3rd, 2013 at 8:04:39 PM
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Quote: cclub79And a big money line bet on SF, no?
Hell yeah, forgot to mention that! Even better!
February 3rd, 2013 at 8:08:47 PM
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Yeah, safety was a double edged sword for some.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
February 3rd, 2013 at 8:38:32 PM
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The no safety was 15% of my bets. I had SF money pretty big. Had SF made a TD on their last possession, and assuming the Ravens didn't score afterward, I would have done very well. By the way, not counting SF money as a prop, I still had a profit on my prop bets.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 3rd, 2013 at 8:47:00 PM
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Quote: WizardBy the way, not counting SF money as a prop, I still had a profit on my prop bets.
Good to hear, relatively speaking. :) Here's to next year having the "no safety" at a better line?
January 3rd, 2015 at 8:26:04 PM
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Regarding the Pit/Bal game today (Jan 3, 2015) was the safety intentional or accidental? I was giving my dog a quick walk at the time and missed it. This will be relevant to me if the Ravens make the Superbowl, as they did an intentional safety when they won it in 2013.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
January 3rd, 2015 at 8:27:38 PM
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Accidental - blocked punt that went through the endzone.
I was just thinking - I hope Wizard didn't make any no safety bets today!
I was just thinking - I hope Wizard didn't make any no safety bets today!
January 3rd, 2015 at 8:33:24 PM
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Quote: wudgedAccidental - blocked punt that went through the endzone.
I was just thinking - I hope Wizard didn't make any no safety bets today!
Thanks. I didn't even know that caused a safety. Never seen a safety happen that way before.
Fortunately, I didn't bet against one. I'm sure I would have, if given the chance.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
January 3rd, 2015 at 9:01:18 PM
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Safety occurred in both games today
January 4th, 2015 at 12:44:46 AM
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It seems to me that safeties are more common in the playoffs than the regular season -- of course that is just my half-assed observation and I have no data at all to back it up.
Maybe because the defenses are going full-throttle and the offenses are willing to take more chances.
Maybe because the defenses are going full-throttle and the offenses are willing to take more chances.
January 4th, 2015 at 3:56:33 AM
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Quote: WizardIt would seem another punt gone bad.
Just seems like it. The punter was clearly told to take a safety but kill as much time as possible avoiding tackle for the few seconds left, he never intended to punt. He finally exited the back of the end zone with 3 seconds left IIRC
I guess that's why they call it a 'safety'
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January 4th, 2015 at 2:27:02 PM
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Quote: WizardIt would seem another punt gone bad. box score.
Nope, same situation as the SB a couple of years back, burn time of the clock in return for giving up 2 points... kills the game pretty much if done right. Intentiuonal safeties are quite common in the CFL (the punt rules are different there with regards to the ball being live for both sides).
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January 4th, 2015 at 4:57:56 PM
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As I just tweeted:
the NFL is nothing more than the WWE with a prolate spheroid!
I'd place as much money on an NFL game that I would on Wrestlemania — rigged rigged rigged
Picking up a flag…ridiculous
the NFL is nothing more than the WWE with a prolate spheroid!
I'd place as much money on an NFL game that I would on Wrestlemania — rigged rigged rigged
Picking up a flag…ridiculous
January 4th, 2015 at 5:18:26 PM
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Quote: thecesspitQuote: WizardIt would seem another punt gone bad. box score.
Nope, same situation as the SB a couple of years back, burn time of the clock in return for giving up 2 points... kills the game pretty much if done right. Intentiuonal safeties are quite common in the CFL (the punt rules are different there with regards to the ball being live for both sides).
Yeah the safety was intentional in the latter playoff game on Saturday. Definitely the correct play as well, imo. Since playoff games tend to be closer, safety probabilities may go up in the playoffs.
You only get one point in the CFL in the situation you're describing. I wouldn't call that an intentional safety. Sacrificing a "rouge" maybe?
January 4th, 2015 at 5:29:31 PM
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Quote: odiousgambitJust seems like it. The punter was clearly told to take a safety but kill as much time as possible avoiding tackle for the few seconds left, he never intended to punt. He finally exited the back of the end zone with 3 seconds left IIRC
I guess that's why they call it a 'safety'
Quote: tringlomaneYeah the safety was intentional in the latter playoff game on Saturday. Definitely the correct play as well, imo. Since playoff games tend to be closer, safety probabilities may go up in the playoffs.
The Baltimore/Pittsburgh game was the latter playoff game on Saturday. So, which were INTENTIONAL safeties yesterday?
A. Ariz/Car only.
B. Bal/Pitt only.
C. Both
D. Neither
Quote:Since playoff games tend to be closer, safety probabilities may go up in the playoffs.
Sounds like a good Ask the Wizard question. I'll get back to you with an answer once I have the data entered for this season.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
January 4th, 2015 at 5:43:52 PM
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A. Ariz/Car only
you can watch it , click on the link you provided .... it's the highlight in last Carolina possession
you can watch it , click on the link you provided .... it's the highlight in last Carolina possession
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
January 4th, 2015 at 6:05:23 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesAs I just tweeted:
the NFL is nothing more than the WWE with a prolate spheroid!
I'd place as much money on an NFL game that I would on Wrestlemania — rigged rigged rigged
Picking up a flag…ridiculous
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24652025/is-this-the-nfl-ref-czar-on-cowboys-party-bus-irate-nfl-execs-say-yes
January 4th, 2015 at 6:09:24 PM
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Quote: coilmanhttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24652025/is-this-the-nfl-ref-czar-on-cowboys-party-bus-irate-nfl-execs-say-yes
No wonder the refs picked up that flag.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
January 4th, 2015 at 8:51:27 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneQuote: thecesspitQuote: WizardIt would seem another punt gone bad. box score.
Nope, same situation as the SB a couple of years back, burn time of the clock in return for giving up 2 points... kills the game pretty much if done right. Intentional safeties are quite common in the CFL (the punt rules are different there with regards to the ball being live for both sides).
Yeah the safety was intentional in the latter playoff game on Saturday. Definitely the correct play as well, imo. Since playoff games tend to be closer, safety probabilities may go up in the playoffs.
You only get one point in the CFL in the situation you're describing. I wouldn't call that an intentional safety. Sacrificing a "rouge" maybe?
That's not a rouge (or a single). A rouge is when the ball is dead in the end zone, by tackling the punt returner, or not being recovered and being 'downed' by an offside player at the point of the punt (unlikely, as the ball is live for onside players, so it'd be extremely risky for the punt returner to leave the ball in the endzone) or if the punt goes throw the back or sides of the endzone. The team scored on gets the ball after a rouge. A safety turns over possession. A punter-driven safety occurs because a punt from the endzone is much worse than giving the ball up from a 25 yard kick off, or defending from the opposition 35 yard-line (3 downs and 110 yard field make that not so bad field position).
The rouge gets the ball back from your own 35 yard line, or the point of the field goal, so yes, giving up a point for better field position can happen too. But it's on receiving the ball.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
January 4th, 2015 at 8:53:17 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesAs I just tweeted:
the NFL is nothing more than the WWE with a prolate spheroid!
I'd place as much money on an NFL game that I would on Wrestlemania — rigged rigged rigged
Picking up a flag…ridiculous
Ridicolous, but not rigged. The Lions had chances to put that game away. They came up far too short in the second half, despite an obviously BS flag pick up. Should never have been waved off after making the announcement on the PA. And shouldn't have been wave off anyway, was a clear Pass Interference. But still winning teams with the #2 defence shouldn't cough up 17 more points like they did.
Gutted. Have to wait longer for my second Lions Playoff win...
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
