Self Discipline to be a Slot Machine Pro

People will always post how to beat slots, etc. But have never seen a post about the self discipline needed to be a slot machine pro. Grinding slots is a different grind, because you can legit be grinding 12 or more hours a day walking around a casino all day. That’s not just physically exhausting, but it’s very mentally exhausting because how boring it can get just walking around all day looking for plays.

Counting cards, you usually don’t grind for more than a few hours in one place and then you get out and hit a different casino and have a change of environment. You don’t really have temptations to gamble on something that’s negative EV, because you have to play perfect basic strategy no matter what and stick to your guns.

Where as the slot grind, you have temptations all the time to take a play early because you get bored or because you went on a bad down swing, and then you see a real high progressive that “might be worth a shot” , etc

Anyone recommend any books to master self discipline? I keep going tilt at times and taking a gamble on non ap games and do not want to do that anymore, because it can cause some serious damage to your bank roll. I started as a regular recreational gambler around 2017 or so, then found how to beat slots around 2019, but I still go tilt at times and want to prevent that permanently. Some of the guys I know who do slots AP, started as pro poker players so they have had discipline instilled in them. So their discipline what all set when they got in the slot game. So, what books is recommended for a slot hustler to master discipline? If don’t want to disclose here can PM me as well. I will never give up info on a play by the way, I don’t know how slot hustlers do that to this day.

Your discipline is to look at all the tweakers and homeless people panhandling outside the casino and remind yourself “you don’t wanna be like them”.

Keep something to do on you that'll help stave off boredom (and temptation) while also not taking all that much attention; my phone is laden with musicals and movies. I'm pretty sure I've inflicted mental damage to other people by quietly singing along to Disney classics while plinking away before...

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Your discipline is to look at all the tweakers and homeless people panhandling outside the casino and remind yourself “you don’t wanna be like them”.
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When I played at South Point, I'd walk through the horse book and silently pray I didn't end up like that.

To the OP, best of luck with your problem. Too many internet APs wind up at Sportsman's Manor or in their car.

Books, you want. You can start with the Discourses of Epictitus and Meditations of Marcus Aurelius.

These are Stoic philosophers, and when you are a Stoic you strive to always do what is rationally the best thing, rather than the things your emotions are telling you might feel better right now. Concentrating on EV rather than the feeling of a win allows one to rank +EV opportunities objectively, and this necessarily distinguishes them from the -EV plays that offer only a feeling as a benefit.

Now of course that idea of "the best thing" can also be subjective. But the one-dimensional goal of AP, making money, helps us with that too. We are there to make money! Thus the only subjective things we have to consider are "At what cost?"- our health and safety in the gaming environment, the risks of wanting too much too soon and getting banned, and lost opportunity cost- we have limited time, could we be doing something better with it?

I am not suggesting anyone need become a Stoic outside of the casino. It has its drawbacks too. For one, chicks don't like it. You can ask a woman whether she would prefer a guy who gets so emotional he hits her on rare occasions, or one who is as hard as a rock and as cold as ice in all matters in the relationship, and I know what she will say. But I also know the truth. Both philosophical Stoicism and AP are very, very male purviews, and that is not coincidental.

Perhaps it will help you to learn a few other games. Walk into a casino, no +EV slots, but there might be +EV something else. It also makes you look better on camera. Instead of being the guy running around checking all the machines, you can be the guy who sometimes plays a slot machine, sometimes is doing something else, and it's all +EV but the people watching you won't necessarily know that.

I'm experiencing imperiling mental exhaustion just reading this

With your typical $25,000 jackpot with a 24% withholding tax of $6,000, somebody might mention that hand pay jackpots only make up 2.5% of total payouts on a machine and playing a 92% payback machine in Vegas beats playing an 89% payback machine in tax free Canada. The math escapes me at the moment.
Gambling diaries are a must but I fail to see YouTubers explaining any of that in their constant slot play. They might show a running total of how they are doing from video to video, but they don't show how a bunch of winning sessions and tax forms offset a bunch of losing sessions for tax purposes.

The money is not in the slots. It is in convincing bad at maths--or at least worst at maths than me--that you have a winning system and selling that system to them.

The legendary gambling expert "Professor Slots", very likely posting on this board under the sobriquet "slotenthusiast" so no negative comments, took a brief interview on a local Colorado news and used it to rebuild his scam course empire. As many as 10 people (according to him, so whatever that is worth), have signed up at somewhere between $477/2 and $477 per person.

The way to succeed is to not take the risk. Make up some nonsense, sell it to people, and demand other people give you a cut if they win with your methods. If they lose, they either did it wrong or the casino changed the "odds" to keep them from winning. They need to try again until they do win. And when that happens, they owe you a huge donation for everything you have done for them.

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Where as the slot grind, you have temptations all the time to take a play early because you get bored or because you went on a bad down swing, and then you see a real high progressive that “might be worth a shot” , etc
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Are you there to play, or are you there to execute a procedure with a positive expected value?

If you're getting bored and contemplating in engaging in activities that do not align with your goals, leave. Clearly you've exhausted the ready opportunities; there is no sense sitting in the orchard waiting for the plums to ripen.

Find a job you like.

Find a job you like. It is that simple.

I love my job as a slot pro. I’m not tilting everyday or anything like that. I only tilt maybe 3-4 times a year max, so I am doing very good. I can just be hard on myself and am a perfectionist with certain things.

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People will always post how to beat slots, etc. But have never seen a post about the self discipline needed to be a slot machine pro. Grinding slots is a different grind, because you can legit be grinding 12 or more hours a day walking around a casino all day. That’s not just physically exhausting, but it’s very mentally exhausting because how boring it can get just walking around all day looking for plays.

Counting cards, you usually don’t grind for more than a few hours in one place and then you get out and hit a different casino and have a change of environment. You don’t really have temptations to gamble on something that’s negative EV, because you have to play perfect basic strategy no matter what and stick to your guns.

Where as the slot grind, you have temptations all the time to take a play early because you get bored or because you went on a bad down swing, and then you see a real high progressive that “might be worth a shot” , etc

Anyone recommend any books to master self discipline? I keep going tilt at times and taking a gamble on non ap games and do not want to do that anymore, because it can cause some serious damage to your bank roll. I started as a regular recreational gambler around 2017 or so, then found how to beat slots around 2019, but I still go tilt at times and want to prevent that permanently. Some of the guys I know who do slots AP, started as pro poker players so they have had discipline instilled in them. So their discipline what all set when they got in the slot game. So, what books is recommended for a slot hustler to master discipline? If don’t want to disclose here can PM me as well. I will never give up info on a play by the way, I don’t know how slot hustlers do that to this day.
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Excellent post and REALLY encapsulates what Posters were trying to drill into my head around 2018/2019 when I claimed I wanted to be an AP. Posters said something like,"Are you SURE you want to be an AP? Being an AP is VERY serious business and MANY APs haven't seen their children or their spouses in YEARS. An AP said that the LAST time he saw his Daughter, she was TWO. She's now 12 and hasn't seen her Dad in TEN years due to him being an AP. So REALLY think hard if you REALLY want to be an AP because APs go YEARS without seeing their Families." 💡

The AP didn't see his kid for ten years because he is a lousy father. Unless he was in prison, there is no excuse for his behavior. Just because an AP screws over his family doesn't mean every AP will do so.