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July 28th, 2023 at 12:35:32 AM permalink


Saw a piece of paper for a new slot being installed.
The 2 #s above caught my eye.
I'm assuming it's for the slot techs for configuration.
Top says progressive %, bottom says payout.

is 85.4% the RTP or is 88% (85.4+2.6) the RTP?
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July 28th, 2023 at 5:53:40 AM permalink
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Saw a piece of paper for a new slot being installed.
The 2 #s above caught my eye.
I'm assuming it's for the slot techs for configuration.
Top says progressive %, bottom says payout.

is 85.4% the RTP or is 88% (85.4+2.6) the RTP?
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All the numbers are quite reasonable. A penny denominated slot will pay out 88-90% RTP in a B&M casino in most jurisdictions, but more in some NV locations. Online progressives very often break out the RTP that way with base a RTP and progressive RTP.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
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July 28th, 2023 at 6:17:30 AM permalink
I dont know much about this topic and i may have interpeted your question wrong but i took it as - Are these two percentages combined to make a total percentage?

And from all of the PAR sheets i have acquired over the years the answer to the question i think you are asking is YES

total payout percentages factor in the progressive

whats crazy is that ive seen slots that normally only pay out about 50% and the progressives add a crap ton to the payout percentages
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July 28th, 2023 at 6:33:43 AM permalink
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I dont know much about this topic and i may have interpeted your question wrong but i took it as - Are these two percentages combined to make a total percentage?

And from all of the PAR sheets i have acquired over the years the answer to the question i think you are asking is YES

total payout percentages factor in the progressive

whats crazy is that ive seen slots that normally only pay out about 50% and the progressives add a crap ton to the payout percentages
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thx!

River dragon is 88% return plus .9% progressive.
would have figured the progressive would make up alot more of the total rtp?
thats less than the 2.6% progressive slot in my OP. :o

that means the 2.6% slot has 3x the variance of .9% river dragons since you rely more on the bonus round to get your $ back?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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July 28th, 2023 at 7:08:57 AM permalink
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Quote: heatmap

I dont know much about this topic and i may have interpeted your question wrong but i took it as - Are these two percentages combined to make a total percentage?

And from all of the PAR sheets i have acquired over the years the answer to the question i think you are asking is YES

total payout percentages factor in the progressive

whats crazy is that ive seen slots that normally only pay out about 50% and the progressives add a crap ton to the payout percentages
link to original post

thx!

River dragon is 88% return plus .9% progressive.
would have figured the progressive would make up alot more of the total rtp?
thats less than the 2.6% progressive slot in my OP. :o

that means the 2.6% slot has 3x the variance of .9% river dragons since you rely more on the bonus round to get your $ back?
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I think RD pays back at least 2.0% for the two progressives combined. I think they trigger early about 1% of the time, but I ignore this. The minor triggers every $74,000 of coin in and the major hits every $374060 of coin in. The minor hits at $496 and the major at $4995 on average. I get 0.67% for the minor and 1.33% for the major.

The base game has a huge variance and the progressives adds little variance because they hit like clockwork. When you are not in the hit zone, the progressives contribute little to the variance.
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July 29th, 2023 at 6:18:46 PM permalink
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I dont know much about this topic and i may have interpeted your question wrong but i took it as - Are these two percentages combined to make a total percentage?

And from all of the PAR sheets i have acquired over the years the answer to the question i think you are asking is YES

total payout percentages factor in the progressive

whats crazy is that ive seen slots that normally only pay out about 50% and the progressives add a crap ton to the payout percentages
link to original post

thx!

River dragon is 88% return plus .9% progressive.
would have figured the progressive would make up alot more of the total rtp?
thats less than the 2.6% progressive slot in my OP. :o

that means the 2.6% slot has 3x the variance of .9% river dragons since you rely more on the bonus round to get your $ back?
link to original post

I think RD pays back at least 2.0% for the two progressives combined. I think they trigger early about 1% of the time, but I ignore this. The minor triggers every $74,000 of coin in and the major hits every $374060 of coin in. The minor hits at $496 and the major at $4995 on average. I get 0.67% for the minor and 1.33% for the major.

The base game has a huge variance and the progressives adds little variance because they hit like clockwork. When you are not in the hit zone, the progressives contribute little to the variance.
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Well the sheet i saw the techs use said .9% progressive, payout 88%.
This is for $4k rd
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