ChesterDog
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November 24th, 2020 at 4:08:09 PM permalink
I visited a racino in New York State, today, and saw some slot machines that would have been advantage machines had they been in Atlantic City or Las Vegas. However, we know that the video poker and slot machines in that racino are just video lottery terminals (VLT.)

So, are there vulturable Class II slot machines?
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November 25th, 2020 at 4:07:33 AM permalink
VLT's and class II games are different.

A VLT is just a visual representation of a win from an electronic scratch card.
A Class II game is a visual representation of the win from a very fast bingo game.

I haven't seen the games you're referring to, but neither of two types of games above are generally vulturable for practical purposes.

One thing I don't get is what is a class I slot. I think they are the same thing as a VLT, but I'm not sure.
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November 25th, 2020 at 5:09:46 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

VLT's and class II games are different.

A VLT is just a visual representation of a win from an electronic scratch card.
A Class II game is a visual representation of the win from a very fast bingo game.

I haven't seen the games you're referring to, but neither of two types of games above are generally vulturable for practical purposes.

One thing I don't get is what is a class I slot. I think they are the same thing as a VLT, but I'm not sure.



I always thought that any “class” of machine was called that because it was on an Indian reservation and that’s how their laws define their machines.

What I don’t understand is why everyone refers to any other machine as any “class” - or why do we use the word class for anything other than an Indian casinos machines?

I have a feeling my question is confusing but I’m submitting this anyways and maybe lll rephrase it eventually
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November 25th, 2020 at 5:34:09 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

VLT's and class II games are different.

A VLT is just a visual representation of a win from an electronic scratch card.
A Class II game is a visual representation of the win from a very fast bingo game.

I haven't seen the games you're referring to, but neither of two types of games above are generally vulturable for practical purposes.

One thing I don't get is what is a class I slot. I think they are the same thing as a VLT, but I'm not sure.



There are vulturable class II slots in NYS racinos, I can verify that myself.
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November 25th, 2020 at 5:44:32 AM permalink
Wicked Winnings II slot machine, Class II, Strange Respins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I55OZ9czsEY

Dang Ol' Slots wrote:
Try changing your bingo card every few spins. On those weird Bally cabinet Aristocrat/Konami/Aruze games like you were playing in this video, all you do is just tap the card on your screen before you spin. It will change the card and you can almost keep your winning consistent. Also, when playing Class II's, you always want to be there when a lot of people are playing since you're technically playing bingo with everyone else there haha.
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November 25th, 2020 at 5:46:44 AM permalink
Weren’t most of the the “collectors” in bars that Micky Crimm talked about vulturing considered class II?
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November 25th, 2020 at 8:30:36 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Weren’t most of the the “collectors” in bars that Micky Crimm talked about vulturing considered class II?



A lot of Mickey's games were in Montana, which is Class III.
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November 25th, 2020 at 8:47:19 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard


One thing I don't get is what is a class I slot. I think they are the same thing as a VLT, but I'm not sure.



According to 25 U.S.C. 2703, "The term ‘‘class I gaming’’ means social games solely for prizes of minimal value or traditional forms of Indian gaming engaged in by individuals as a part of, or in connection with, tribal ceremonies or celebrations"
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November 25th, 2020 at 8:56:48 AM permalink
Quote: darrellg

According to 25 U.S.C. 2703, "The term ‘‘class I gaming’’ means social games solely for prizes of minimal value or traditional forms of Indian gaming engaged in by individuals as a part of, or in connection with, tribal ceremonies or celebrations"



That sounds like the games at say Chuck e. Cheese
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November 25th, 2020 at 9:31:08 AM permalink
Guess I’m a bit confused.

I believe the slots in Ohio racinos are VLT’s (please correct me if I’m wrong).

Not sure how you can say these are not vulturable. Many GE. OM Hex etc in the racinos that are definitely accumulator type vulturable slots.
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