If Vegas gets emptier because of Coronavirus, will slot payouts go up or down?
Comp offers may increase.
They would drop payouts and increase FP and rethink all offerings.Quote: genericusernameDo you think casinos would jack up the payout to try to entice more people? Or would they ratchet it down in an effort to skimp and save as much money as possible during a difficult financial time?
Quote: michael99000I’m only willing to handle virus-infested chips if blackjacks pay 2-1
If PA had a 2-1 virus special I’d keep working my long days then play 4-5 more hours after work.
I'm not understanding the connection between the two things what do you meanQuote: Suited89I'd be more worried about "Progressive Resets" than anything. Everyone can wear gloves and use a touch screen stylus. Almost a non issue if yoou think about it.
Quote: Suited89I'd be more worried about "Progressive Resets" than anything. Everyone can wear gloves and use a touch screen stylus. Almost a non issue if yoou think about it.
More worried about progressives being reset than about getting the virus ?
And yet...Quote: rsactuaryProgressive resets would be illegal in Nevada... and likely most other states.
Quote: TigerWuMost cruise ships are registered to foreign countries so they probably have different casino regulations.
They have almost no regulations because the generally operate at sea and not in a specific port or jurisdiction.
Don't mean it actually happens.Quote: DJTeddyBearPosted near the cage on my Royal Carrbean cruise last year:
Quote: DRichThey have almost no regulations because the generally operate at sea and not in a specific port or jurisdiction.
When the ship enters international waters, the law of country of registration is the law the governs. For that reason, many ships are registered in Panama.
For reasons of low fees and lax mechanical and crewing standards, not particularly for the gambling laws.Quote: mrsuit31many ships are registered in Panama.
Quote: Suited89I'd be more worried about "Progressive Resets" than anything. Everyone can wear gloves and use a touch screen stylus. Almost a non issue if yoou think about it.
Besides being illegal in Nevada, that does not make my top 1,000 list of things to worry about.
Quote: DJTeddyBearPosted near the cage on my Royal Carrbean cruise last year:
Cruise ships do not have to abide by state laws or U.S. They operate out of a specific country (usually fly a flag of one with few regulations for these very reasons -in addition to paying wages that would be illegal in the U.S.....)
For your example Royal Caribbean is a Liberian company (on paper), and you can guess Liberia's minimum wage and player protection laws.....
LOL @ that sign. No doubt them adding that sign probably had something do with an advantage player originally.Quote: GandlerQuote: DJTeddyBearPosted near the cage on my Royal Carrbean cruise last year:
Cruise ships do not have to abide by state laws or U.S. They operate out of a specific country (usually fly a flag of one with few regulations for these very reasons -in addition to paying wages that would be illegal in the U.S.....)
For your example Royal Caribbean is a Liberian company (on paper), and you can guess Liberia's minimum wage and player protection laws.....
Quote: AxelWolfLOL @ that sign. No doubt them adding that sign probably had something do with an advantage player originally.Quote: GandlerQuote: DJTeddyBearPosted near the cage on my Royal Carrbean cruise last year:
Cruise ships do not have to abide by state laws or U.S. They operate out of a specific country (usually fly a flag of one with few regulations for these very reasons -in addition to paying wages that would be illegal in the U.S.....)
For your example Royal Caribbean is a Liberian company (on paper), and you can guess Liberia's minimum wage and player protection laws.....
The more I think about that sign, the more complicated I think the answer is....
If you think about it, in order to reset between sails, they would be doing so while the ship is docked. Therefore, they would be doing so while not being in international waters, making them subject to the laws of the port in which the actions are taking place. Interesting........
Sounds like an almost done deal.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/white-house-will-send-checks-to-americans-to-fight-coronavirus-economic-impact-mnuchin/
Quote: TDVegasUS Treasury to authorize checks to every tax payer for $1,000 or more in next 2 weeks.
Ummm... The article didn't say whether the $1,000 cash is a gift or a loan. Watch out.
Quote: LuckyPhowUmmm... The article didn't say whether the $1,000 cash is a gift or a loan. Watch out.
If it is an interest free loan I will take it.
Quote: LuckyPhowUmmm... The article didn't say whether the $1,000 cash is a gift or a loan. Watch out.
A loan to go out and spend? I'd send it back.
They would storm the capital with pitch forks if it was written like that.
Quote: TDVegasUS Treasury to authorize checks to every tax payer for $1,000 or more in next 2 weeks.
Sounds like an almost done deal.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/white-house-will-send-checks-to-americans-to-fight-coronavirus-economic-impact-mnuchin/
Does anyone know how they define 'taxpayer?
I pay taxes on my pension as if it was earned income. Am I a taxpayer?
Wife is independent contractor, pays taxes of course, is she a taxpayer?
Wife's daughter works a few hours a week at a bakery. Is she getting the thou?
If you are an honest AP ( no laughing please!) and file a tax return that makes you a 'taxpayer' as well, I assume?
Quote: SOOPOODoes anyone know how they define 'taxpayer?
I pay taxes on my pension as if it was earned income. Am I a taxpayer?
Wife is independent contractor, pays taxes of course, is she a taxpayer?
Wife's daughter works a few hours a week at a bakery. Is she getting the thou?
If you are an honest AP ( no laughing please!) and file a tax return that makes you a 'taxpayer' as well, I assume?
My guess would be if you are required by law to file a federal tax return..you are eligible. Other than breaking it down by who paid what, who didn't pay, who didn't owe, who did owe and how much....there's no other way to do it. This sounds like pay them $1,000 now regardless.
OK back to the OT thread, thanks TD Vegas for the derail.
Quote: CasinoResearchI don't think they will raise or lower edges
Why would they. People don't
pay attention to or understand
the HE anyway, why would a
casino mess with it.
In this sentence I would say that 'people" is not restricted to players but also embraces management.Quote: EvenBobPeople don't pay attention to or understand the HE anyway, why would a casino mess with it.
Quote: EvenBobWhy would they. People don't
pay attention to or understand
the HE anyway, why would a
casino mess with it.
They must always be trying to find the sweet spot. If they make it too low people won't return if they are just slaughtered quickly each time they play. If that wasn't true, every machine would be set at the lowest amount legally allowed. Correct that people don't understand the house edge, especially most slot players. But they will understand when their $200 only lasts 30 minutes.
Or the addicted may just storm the place the first day it's opening and they won't have to worry about it.
Quote: GialmereIf you turn off a slot machine (especially some 30 year-old classic type) for several weeks to save on your electric bill, would the machine still remember its progressive totals (mini, minor, major etc) when you turn it back on?
In general yes. Each machine has static RAM that is kept alive by a battery. As long as the battery doesn't go dead it will remember all of its setup.
Quote: DRichIn general yes. Each machine has static RAM that is kept alive by a battery. As long as the battery doesn't go dead it will remember all of its setup.
It also wouldn't surprise me if they took an accounting of all the progressives before they shut banks of machines down.
Quote: DRichIn general yes. Each machine has static RAM that is kept alive by a battery. As long as the battery doesn't go dead it will remember all of its setup.
I've been chasing a specific progressive for almost a year. Even though the machines are off, I expect them to come up at the same amount. I know the amount the day they shut down.
Quote: rsactuaryIt also wouldn't surprise me if they took an accounting of all the progressives before they shut banks of machines down.
We did write down the progressives at our properties.
I have seen machines move around casinos and when they were back up they had the same progressive values. Some casinos also have a slot attendant that walks around, usually at night, and inputs all progressive numbers in an iPad. I would guess they did this before they closed. Probably depends on jurisdiction.Quote: GialmereIf you turn off a slot machine (especially some 30 year-old classic type) for several weeks to save on your electric bill, would the machine still remember its progressive totals (mini, minor, major etc) when you turn it back on?
Quote: CasinoResearchI believe the software that's built in to all modern machines synchs up in a way in which it doesn't matter where the machine physically is located.
Progressives that control more than a single machine use what is called a progressive controller which is a separate piece of equipment,.
Start off? It would surely end mine,Quote: ChumpChangeI can tell you my new install of WinCraps thinks nothing of a dozen point 7-outs in a row to start off my day.
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The trick is how the games work. For each bet at which you win, the casino pays slightly less than if the chances were equal.
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