Wonder Four jackpot wheel
January 20th, 2018 at 1:06:34 AM
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Anybody play these? I find the game quite interesting, not really sure what a good number is, but I'm not interested if not quite close to $400 or higher. Interesting, playing one game didn't seem to increase the progressive at all. I had $1.17 left the other day, played just one game and bonused better than I had when playing all four games routinely. Jumping to conclusions, but it made me wonder.
A sample video .
A sample video .
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January 20th, 2018 at 1:25:19 AM
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Cost me $600 to win the $3xx.xx butfalo when I tried it once. But the super grand jp was high but probably just was gambling like the rest of them.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
January 20th, 2018 at 10:19:29 AM
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Guess I learned my lesson, played for hours last night, went back to the casino and hit the progressive plus super free games in 7 spins. Noice.
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January 20th, 2018 at 1:12:59 PM
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I've played them quite a bit. Done well with the jackpots, though rarely do they get above 350 or so before I hit them. Did hit the big jp once for 2200 or so.
They usually do a decent job of hitting supergames, and I think they hit the progressives more often than most. And I like the games they have on them, so I tend to look for them when I'm in the mood for slots.
They usually do a decent job of hitting supergames, and I think they hit the progressives more often than most. And I like the games they have on them, so I tend to look for them when I'm in the mood for slots.
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January 20th, 2018 at 4:50:46 PM
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On wonder four, the regular version, I always assumed quite assertively, playing less than four screens gives up something. You're obviously unable to get the super free games, but the super free games might be an illusion. I don't know the par sheets for the games or how it works, but the wonder four jackpot games make me wonder. If you play only one screen the jackpot won't move, so that makes me want to assume the extra features (progressive, super features) are taken from the straight up bonuses. It's kind of earth shattering if true. The game isn't giving you a super feature, it's robbing regular bonus features and redistributing.
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January 21st, 2018 at 9:03:52 PM
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Maybe when you did 1 screen you didn't play enough coin in to move it?
January 21st, 2018 at 9:48:57 PM
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I played enough to move the meter, very apparent only all four games played contributes to progressive, and naturally, the features.Quote: BTLWIMaybe when you did 1 screen you didn't play enough coin in to move it?
Last edited by: onenickelmiracle on Jan 22, 2018
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January 22nd, 2018 at 4:57:59 AM
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I'm confused. Is everyone trying to figure out when this machines progressive is +ev even though there is not a must hit limit?
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:26:42 AM
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I'm more interested in how wonder 4 works. I always thought the game withheld a better return if not betting max games, but it is possible the game works another way. EV would not be public by me. I did throw out a number, but it's just arbitrary.Quote: prozemaI'm confused. Is everyone trying to figure out when this machines progressive is +ev even though there is not a must hit limit?
Last edited by: onenickelmiracle on Jan 22, 2018
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January 22nd, 2018 at 5:31:25 AM
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I too am intrigued.
January 29th, 2018 at 4:57:04 AM
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Miss kitty made me her bitch this time. Another coincidence, accidentally bet two games on it, bonused and wound up on the higher range of results. It was $480 in a foreign casino to me, came back $540. Was worried about that, if it hadn't hit yet like typical, figured there would be a reason. Tried anyways, no luck. It isn't passing the common sense test anymore.
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January 29th, 2018 at 5:13:24 AM
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For $.50, $31. For $8, $19. Yuck.
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February 5th, 2018 at 5:21:47 PM
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I have played about about 5 or 6 of these until I hit the minor jackpot. I have done OK, overall a couple hundred ahead. Like all slots, I like to try to figure them out a little and this one is kind of tough. Mainly just what triggers the jackpot to go off (is it a random virtual reel or does it tend to go off by a certain level) and does betting $8 vs $2 increase the odds of hitting it? On the surface it seems you should just bet $2 because that will give you more bonus spins but I don't know. I do like the high meter rise. The line pays are OK, you can occasionally hit for $20 - $100. The bonus rounds do have some variance. Sometimes you blank but sometimes you can make out well.
I saw the major jackpot get hit once. Other than that, it doesn't seem like it goes off too often. There is one at MGM National Harbor that has been at $4999.99 for over 2 months, and those machines get a lot of play. I'm assuming it's one of those jackpots that only accumulate so much and then the excess gets added to the next jackpot once the current one has been hit.
I saw the major jackpot get hit once. Other than that, it doesn't seem like it goes off too often. There is one at MGM National Harbor that has been at $4999.99 for over 2 months, and those machines get a lot of play. I'm assuming it's one of those jackpots that only accumulate so much and then the excess gets added to the next jackpot once the current one has been hit.
March 23rd, 2018 at 7:22:43 PM
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I've now pulled two game specific progressives down starting at a little over $400. I have been playing 4 games at minimum bet per game to drive the meter. Not sure if I've just been lucky or not.
Did someone say they have seen a game specific progressive go over $500?
I wonder if the meter matters?
I wonder if the probably of the wheel changes as the jackpot grows?
Did someone say they have seen a game specific progressive go over $500?
I wonder if the meter matters?
I wonder if the probably of the wheel changes as the jackpot grows?
March 23rd, 2018 at 8:08:59 PM
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Greater than $500, yes $540 to $580 and burned. I no longer feel so good playing them at most casinos. Haven't hit one in months, but local downgraded them imo, i don't play.Quote: prozemaI've now pulled two game specific progressives down starting at a little over $400. I have been playing 4 games at minimum bet per game to drive the meter. Not sure if I've just been lucky or not.
Did someone say they have seen a game specific progressive go over $500?
I wonder if the meter matters?
I wonder if the probably of the wheel changes as the jackpot grows?
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March 23rd, 2018 at 11:00:06 PM
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Quote: prozemaDid someone say they have seen a game specific progressive go over $500?
I've seen one at almost $700. Put way too much in trying to win it and didn't. :-(
March 23rd, 2018 at 11:45:27 PM
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Gold bar 7s is another you just can't guess on. Seems at some casinos they hit, and others go on months Hollywood style. Assume $600 is good one place lose the farm at another at $800. Can't be an advantage if you don't know why it's an advantage. Eventually, casino changes the return and you're playing neg ex.
One thing for sure, I've never had two bonuses on one spin and ten minutes after a sobriety check post, I'm playing one.
One thing for sure, I've never had two bonuses on one spin and ten minutes after a sobriety check post, I'm playing one.
Last edited by: onenickelmiracle on Mar 24, 2018
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March 24th, 2018 at 6:37:00 AM
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I appreciate everyone responding. I'm not sure that I agree with the comment that it can't be an advantage if you don't know why it's an advantage. Don't get me wrong, it's really nice if I am capable of proving an advantage with math... (Or if the wilds are stuck in the first two rows).
But, there are just too many machines I've been winning on for way too long for it to be luck.
I'm curious on the $500+ level progressives, what were the other games at? Most in the $200s?
But, there are just too many machines I've been winning on for way too long for it to be luck.
I'm curious on the $500+ level progressives, what were the other games at? Most in the $200s?
March 24th, 2018 at 11:15:39 AM
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If you can prove it, you know why.
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March 24th, 2018 at 12:19:50 PM
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I played the Wonder 4 games on my free Casino app which pays exactly like a land based Casino or online Casino and the payouts on the Wonder 4 are crap compared to the single version of them. For example,lets say I am playing Wicked Winnings Wonder 4 version and get a full screen of The Raven and The She Devil(The best symbols) and I get $2,000. The Land based single game version pays like $5,000 for a full screen of The Raven and She Devil.
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April 21st, 2018 at 4:06:46 PM
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Caught wind of a pot $550+, wouldn't even get out of bed because I don't know the base return and assume it to be garbage.
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April 23rd, 2018 at 7:54:18 PM
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Noticed something very interesting on one of these machines at a casino, the grand jackpot wasn't capped at $4999.99, was $57XX.XX. I always assumed capped progressives were universal, no casino input whatsoever. Very interesting to see an exception to capped jackpots.
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April 23rd, 2018 at 8:18:14 PM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleNoticed something very interesting on one of these machines at a casino, the grand jackpot wasn't capped at $4999.99, was $57XX.XX. I always assumed capped progressives were universal, no casino input whatsoever. Very interesting to see an exception to capped jackpots.
I've seen both... They seem to function exactly the same.
