100xOdds

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September 10th, 2017 at 4:31:32 PM permalink

1) min bet = .60, max = \$3
from playing it a little, it seems \$5 coin-in moves the \$500 progressive \$0.01.
What's the +EV amount?

2) the help menu says chances of hitting the progressive is directly proportional to bet size.
so \$3 bet is better??
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onenickelmiracle
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September 10th, 2017 at 7:40:23 PM permalink
BTLWI
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September 11th, 2017 at 1:13:47 AM permalink
If \$3100 coin in is worth anything special today I would play it otherwise it's pretty much break even if that coin in is worth \$10-\$15.
Romes
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September 11th, 2017 at 7:22:03 AM permalink
I'll encourage =P... I have posted before with the info above and shown how to calculate the break even. I don't think others like it too much when I do something like that, so I'll leave you with that piece of info and this: You have everything you need to calculate a break even except the HE, which we don't always know exactly.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
BTLWI
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September 11th, 2017 at 5:45:30 PM permalink
If you walk around enough in a busy casino you can know the house edge. Techs are lazy. In the past year I've seen the pay table screen on over 10 machines at my local. I don't go out of my way looking for it but if I see them in a machine I'll spend 30 seconds to a minute observing them to see if they reveal that screen.

There's even a few brand new machines that put the coin in, coin out, and hand pay amount odometers on the outside of the machines, clearly visible. Easy calcs.
GWAE
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September 12th, 2017 at 2:22:52 AM permalink
I believe woo has this info there are well.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
gamerfreak
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September 12th, 2017 at 5:45:10 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

2) the help menu says chances of hitting the progressive is directly proportional to bet size.
so \$3 bet is better??

Are they linked? Doesn't look like the linked type, but If they are linked and you are up against other people potentially winning, you'd def want to go with max bets.

Otherwise, if max betting doesn't change the pay table of the machine, you could do less than max for less variance.
Romes
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September 12th, 2017 at 8:23:57 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Quote: 100xOdds

2) the help menu says chances of hitting the progressive is directly proportional to bet size.
so \$3 bet is better??

Are they linked? Doesn't look like the linked type, but If they are linked and you are up against other people potentially winning, you'd def want to go with max bets.

Otherwise, if max betting doesn't change the pay table of the machine, you could do less than max for less variance.

They are "technically" linked in the fact that if you bet more, the progressive goes up faster, which means you'll hit the JP "sooner." It's word trickery that is very misleading, which is what the casino excels at. "Bet more to have a better chance to hit the jackpot!" I've even asked when I saw that the first time and they told me the same thing... The JP is "random" and if you bet more you'll raise the meter faster and hit it sooner.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
gamerfreak
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September 12th, 2017 at 8:39:39 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Quote: gamerfreak

Quote: 100xOdds

2) the help menu says chances of hitting the progressive is directly proportional to bet size.
so \$3 bet is better??

Are they linked? Doesn't look like the linked type, but If they are linked and you are up against other people potentially winning, you'd def want to go with max bets.

Otherwise, if max betting doesn't change the pay table of the machine, you could do less than max for less variance.

They are "technically" linked in the fact that if you bet more, the progressive goes up faster, which means you'll hit the JP "sooner." It's word trickery that is very misleading, which is what the casino excels at. "Bet more to have a better chance to hit the jackpot!" I've even asked when I saw that the first time and they told me the same thing... The JP is "random" and if you bet more you'll raise the meter faster and hit it sooner.

I meant linked as in multiple machines working towards the same progressive jackpot
Romes
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September 12th, 2017 at 9:42:14 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Quote: Romes

Quote: gamerfreak

Quote: 100xOdds

2) the help menu says chances of hitting the progressive is directly proportional to bet size.
so \$3 bet is better??

Are they linked? Doesn't look like the linked type, but If they are linked and you are up against other people potentially winning, you'd def want to go with max bets.

Otherwise, if max betting doesn't change the pay table of the machine, you could do less than max for less variance.

They are "technically" linked in the fact that if you bet more, the progressive goes up faster, which means you'll hit the JP "sooner." It's word trickery that is very misleading, which is what the casino excels at. "Bet more to have a better chance to hit the jackpot!" I've even asked when I saw that the first time and they told me the same thing... The JP is "random" and if you bet more you'll raise the meter faster and hit it sooner.

I meant linked as in multiple machines working towards the same progressive jackpot

Oh... No the picture he showed I've never seen those machines linked to other machines. They're individual machines/jackpots, at least as far as I've ever seen from those.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.