lightningbolts
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August 8th, 2017 at 7:58:49 PM permalink
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I'm skeptical Alex has anything on Aristrocrat. A junky slot maker like Novomatic, plausible, but Aristocrat I just don't believe. Modern machines like Aristrocrat change the outcome of a game thousands, many millions, of times per second. A human being is not going to be a able to press a button with such pinpoint accuracy. Even if they could, I would still be skeptical. The big boys like Aristrocrat, I think, seed their RNG's with white noise, which is not a repeating cycle.



I can tell you for a fact this is true for several old Aristocrat cabinets. It's been going on for years before people figured out what they were doing.

Fun fact: I independently theorized the Russian teams knew the RNG algorithm a year ago before any of these stories broke.
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August 8th, 2017 at 8:23:07 PM permalink
Quote: lightningbolts

I can tell you for a fact this is true for several old Aristocrat cabinets. It's been going on for years before people figured out what they were doing.

Fun fact: I independently theorized the Russian teams knew the RNG algorithm a year ago before any of these stories broke.



Sounds like you know a thing or two about this. I don't deny that some old Aristrocrat games may have been vulnerable. Maybe some of these games are still floating around eastern Europe and South America. I am basing my opinions on the fact that today Aristocrat is huge and can afford to hire somebody who knows the latest technology on random numbers. Are they too cheap to do so? I doubt it, but I've been wrong before.
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lightningbolts
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August 8th, 2017 at 9:35:24 PM permalink
The problem is not the game, but the cabinet the game runs on. These cabinets are still in the US, but it's not entirely clear what machines still have this vulnerability. So blame Aristocrat for either not knowing or not disclosing and casinos for not knowing or not wanting to spend money to buy new cabinets (which I can't really fault them if they don't know which ones to replace).

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