AlanMendelson
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October 23rd, 2015 at 5:10:02 PM permalink
Is there any published data on the frequency of getting a spin on the $100 single coin Wheel of Fortune machines?
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October 23rd, 2015 at 7:02:28 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Is there any published data on the frequency of getting a spin on the $100 single coin Wheel of Fortune machines?



I don't know the answer to that, but one interesting feature is that if you roll a blank, no symbols on the pay line, it pays back one unit.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 7:39:17 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I don't know the answer to that, but one interesting feature is that if you roll a blank, no symbols on the pay line, it pays back one unit.



That depends on the game. There are various versions of the $100 Wheel of Fortune. I know the version of the game you are talking about.

There are other versions where "blanks" do not give you your money back or a free spin.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 9:17:11 PM permalink
I hit 2/3 "Double Diamond" on the $25 machine at Caesar's. So close to a 20k hit.

My only experience with higher limit WoF is the $5 machines. I have had some pretty good luck with these machines... $200-300 gives you a good shot (60-70%) to hit the spin. Extrapolating 2-credit $5 to 1-credit $100... $2-3k would be necessary. Obviously, considering the $100 wheel payouts this can't be possible, but it's all I've got.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 11:15:30 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

Extrapolating 2-credit $5 to 1-credit $100... $2-3k would be necessary. Obviously, considering the $100 wheel payouts this can't be possible, but it's all I've got.



I have a buddy who put $3,000 into a $100 WOF machine at Bellagio. (As I wrote on my forum, this was NOT me.) He had 80 plays on that $3,000 and not even one spin. His biggest wins were $500.

Hence the question: any published stats on how many plays to get a spin?

I've seen some discussions that ranged from 20 to 40. He played 80 and got nada.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 11:47:38 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I've seen some discussions that ranged from 20 to 40. He played 80 and got nada.



Maybe it's got a better return than the lower denominations, but that doesn't sound that unreasonable. Just unfortunate he got a bad run while playing that higher denomination. *been there, done that

Nobody ever complains when they repeatedly bonus unusually close together, of course.
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October 24th, 2015 at 12:23:17 AM permalink
Even if it went 120-150 or more if you are saying it's normally 20-40. That's not even that statistically abnormal
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October 24th, 2015 at 2:17:00 AM permalink
I remember going about 300+ spins on a supposed 30 spin bonus.

It happens.

Now if the guy played 10,000+ spins we'd have some data.
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November 15th, 2015 at 4:25:58 AM permalink
I love the $100 WOF machines. I've had some really lucky runs only a few weeks ago where I put $1,000 in and hit a bonus after 2 pulls. While waiting for the attendant for a $5,000 hand pay...I started playing the machine directly to the right of it. Had put another $1,000 in and hit a bonus after 4 pulls and hit for $3,000. Other trips I felt like was feeding the machine and pull after pull nothing. Honestly though, I've hit bigger wins on $5 and $25 machines. Still nothing higher than a single hit of $10,000. I'm still chasing that big hit!! LOL
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November 15th, 2015 at 9:11:16 AM permalink
Quote: HighLimitLover

I love the $100 WOF machines. I've had some really lucky runs only a few weeks ago where I put $1,000 in and hit a bonus after 2 pulls. While waiting for the attendant for a $5,000 hand pay...I started playing the machine directly to the right of it. Had put another $1,000 in and hit a bonus after 4 pulls and hit for $3,000. Other trips I felt like was feeding the machine and pull after pull nothing. Honestly though, I've hit bigger wins on $5 and $25 machines. Still nothing higher than a single hit of $10,000. I'm still chasing that big hit!! LOL



It sounds like it! Good luck and welcome to WoV!
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November 15th, 2015 at 6:35:07 PM permalink
$10,000 on a $100 spin is great. It is $100 times your bet. :)
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November 15th, 2015 at 6:39:44 PM permalink
And 100 times is good?
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November 15th, 2015 at 6:55:11 PM permalink
Yes, 100 times your bet is good. If you put in $1 in a machine, and you get $100, that's good. :)
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December 1st, 2016 at 11:46:03 PM permalink
I wonder what rate of return these machines even are. You would think betting $100 in one shot, there would be some reassurance, like a sign promising at least 98%. I assume they're worse than people hope, so not much downward limit. I've heard the horror stories, such as $10,000 no hits whatsoever. If I ever played, one shot and done would be it.

Otherwise a high denomination STP seems like a much better option. FOAK $2500 seems like a wheel spin, plus the multipliers, aces, royals, etc.
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December 2nd, 2016 at 9:17:40 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I wonder what rate of return these machines even are. You would think betting $100 in one shot, there would be some reassurance, like a sign promising at least 98%. I assume they're worse than people hope, so not much downward limit. I've heard the horror stories, such as $10,000 no hits whatsoever. If I ever played, one shot and done would be it.

Otherwise a high denomination STP seems like a much better option. FOAK $2500 seems like a wheel spin, plus the multipliers, aces, royals, etc.



Does it matter if these are 98% vs 95%? The people playing these are looking for the high variance big score endorphin rush, not an extra 3% RTP.
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December 2nd, 2016 at 9:34:08 PM permalink
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Does it matter if these are 98% vs 95%? The people playing these are looking for the high variance big score endorphin rush, not an extra 3% RTP.

I don't know, maybe. Can't even be sure they're not 92%. For a potential loss of $1000 in 30 seconds, I think they have room to be a little generous. Nobody knows anything about a $100 machine. I think that's quite mysterious. You would think at least this thing the casino can open the veil, but they don't. So it would make sense they are indeed 95%, give or take very little. If a big progressive attached, lower.
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December 27th, 2016 at 7:11:08 AM permalink
I haven't seen any data for wheel of fortune. Mostly spins depends on how much you win and bet. Even you put a $100 the spins would always depend on the result of the slot.
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December 27th, 2016 at 9:20:05 AM permalink
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I haven't seen any data for wheel of fortune. Mostly spins depends on how much you win and bet. Even you put a $100 the spins would always depend on the result of the slot.



What the hell does that even mean?
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December 27th, 2016 at 9:41:33 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

What the hell does that even mean?



Mob is over in Asia. Might be a language thing. I took it as the return to player in different denoms usually scales with higher coin amounts to a better game, but he'd like to see some numbers on whether that's true for WoF. However, I think there are too many variations out there to know which machine he's trying to spec. And he's also referring to the variance on what bankroll it would take to play the 100 denom; might be too rich for him even if it's a relatively good game.

YMMV.
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December 27th, 2016 at 10:12:53 AM permalink
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August 9th, 2021 at 2:05:54 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I don't know, maybe. Can't even be sure they're not 92%. For a potential loss of $1000 in 30 seconds, I think they have room to be a little generous. Nobody knows anything about a $100 machine. I think that's quite mysterious. You would think at least this thing the casino can open the veil, but they don't. So it would make sense they are indeed 95%, give or take very little. If a big progressive attached, lower.



6 years later and this is still a mystery. And it’s information that I’d like to know, out of curiosity. The only thing you can find about the $100 WoF slot is this discussion, and hundreds of videos of wheel hits. You’d think every pull results in a SPIN!

I blew through 10 tries on our last trip to Borgata, got nothing, just three blanks for a total of 13 spins. I did well at other games, and the trip was an overall win. My observation is that people play a couple spins on a whim. If it hits, they get THE RUSH. If it doesn’t, they walk. Very rarely does anyone pump $10000 into it and sit there for an hour. I’ve seen that, but rarely.
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August 9th, 2021 at 2:36:23 PM permalink
It also surprises me there is no data.

I havent been in a casino with the $100 game in about three years. I do see a $50 version now. And there is a $25 version.

The last time I saw the $100 version at Caesars the player had hit $20,000 on a wheel spin and was waiting for the hand pay.
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August 10th, 2021 at 7:17:26 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

It also surprises me there is no data.

I havent been in a casino with the $100 game in about three years. I do see a $50 version now. And there is a $25 version.

The last time I saw the $100 version at Caesars the player had hit $20,000 on a wheel spin and was waiting for the hand pay.



At Borgata they have two $100/2 credits machines, $200/spin! I've seen a $500 machine, but I don't remember where. And that was a long time ago.
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