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October 6th, 2015 at 10:05:02 AM permalink
I know a lot of us get irritated at a $1201 handpay, and there has been some talk of government imposing a $600 reporting threshold...



$225, just a few days ago. (Penny slots? Yes.. Killing time with $20 while waiting for a promo.)

The attendant explained that in this case it wasn't because of a reporting requirement, the credit meter just didn't have that many digits in it. She didn't do any government paperwork, and just handed me cash out of a fanny pack.


So... Small handpays! Who bothered to catch a picture? How small of a handpay have you gotten?
May the cards fall in your favor.
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October 6th, 2015 at 10:21:31 AM permalink
Some of the quarter Blazing 7's machines at Greektown are hand pays for the $250+ jackpots.
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October 6th, 2015 at 11:17:21 AM permalink
I'm not sure if mine qualifies, but if it does, I think I win this thread... ;)

I was in Vegas in 2005 and wandered into the Gold Spike downtown. At the time, they still had their "Copper Mine," which consisted of penny slots that actually accepted and disbursed pennies. This was the first, and most likely last time I have ever played a penny coin-dropper.

The next time I was in Vegas, in early 2007, I again went to the Gold Spike to play their penny slots. This time, they still had the same machines, but they had been converted to accept bills only. So, I put in a $1 bill and played it down to 4c. I wanted to see if it would still drop pennies, but when I hit the Cash Out button, nothing came out. Instead, it alerted the attendant, and he came over to hand-pay my $0.04!!!
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October 6th, 2015 at 1:39:30 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

I hit the Cash Out button, nothing came out. Instead, it alerted the attendant, and he came over to hand-pay my $0.04!!!



Charming, but... yeah. Not really a win-triggered handpay. :)

And yes, that beats my 11 cent handpay due to a TITO communication error.
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October 6th, 2015 at 2:14:58 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Charming, but... yeah. Not really a win-triggered handpay. :)

And yes, that beats my 11 cent handpay due to a TITO communication error.



Yeah, one of these happened to me at Lumiere Place, and they decided to use the IGT jackpot music to signify the handpay. Everyone kept looking over while I had to say it was only like $0.50 or something. First time I ever heard that music from my machine. :( I have yet to be hand paid from a non-TITO error. :(
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October 6th, 2015 at 2:47:01 PM permalink
The weird thing about the Gold Spike is that the penny machines were set up for hand-pay only, regardless of the amount. Maybe it was cheaper to have the attendant hand-pay everything than to fill/fix the coin dispensers? I wouldn't think so, but who knows? They were old machines. Maybe I caught them in a transition where they were going to TITO, but hadn't had the TO part installed yet.
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October 6th, 2015 at 3:07:21 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Maybe it was cheaper to have the attendant hand-pay everything than to fill/fix the coin dispensers?



I would guess "light wands" were a contributing factor to the decision.

And yeah, hoppers are a lot easier to keep filled when every player helps you fill them.
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October 6th, 2015 at 3:40:04 PM permalink
Years and years ago when they still had coins that came out of machines, I had a $180 and change hand pay in a Canadian casino on a $0.05 or $0.10 game. No reporting, just annoyance. Russian gaming parlors were the same way. Even small wins were hand paid.

The most annoying "hand pay" ever though happened just after casinos switched to tito systems. I put in a ticket ($350 maybe?) in a dollar denom game. Played a bit, lost $40 or so, and then wanted to cash out. Hand pay. No machine pay for me because it was over $300, which was a holdover from the coin days. Bells were ringing as people asked how much I won. $300. And it's my own money.

Since then, nothing small. In New York fake casinos, you don't get hand paid for $600+ wins on VLTs, but you get a voucher you can only cash out with a live attendant even if no taxes are owed.
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October 6th, 2015 at 6:33:13 PM permalink
The old nickel machines at The D would result in a handpay if you tried to cash out for any amount $50 or greater. Technically, though, I suppose you don't actually have to win to trigger the hand pay because you could just put $50 in and cash out.

Actually, exactly $50 may not have been, but definitely anything over.
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October 6th, 2015 at 7:19:21 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

The old nickel machines at The D would result in a handpay if you tried to cash out for any amount $50 or greater. Technically, though, I suppose you don't actually have to win to trigger the hand pay because you could just put $50 in and cash out.

Actually, exactly $50 may not have been, but definitely anything over.



Lol I can confirm its not exactly $50 but over $50. I cashed out exactly $50 and got paid in nickels.
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October 6th, 2015 at 7:33:40 PM permalink
Yes
New York is beyond bad- when you play baccarat at 500 a hand every win spits out a ticket - and you have to walk to cashier - you need an unlimited bankroll to play at that level since you have to keep feeding in cash even when winning



Quote: itsmejeff

Years and years ago when they still had coins that came out of machines, I had a $180 and change hand pay in a Canadian casino on a $0.05 or $0.10 game. No reporting, just annoyance. Russian gaming parlors were the same way. Even small wins were hand paid.

The most annoying "hand pay" ever though happened just after casinos switched to tito systems. I put in a ticket ($350 maybe?) in a dollar denom game. Played a bit, lost $40 or so, and then wanted to cash out. Hand pay. No machine pay for me because it was over $300, which was a holdover from the coin days. Bells were ringing as people asked how much I won. $300. And it's my own money.

Since then, nothing small. In New York fake casinos, you don't get hand paid for $600+ wins on VLTs, but you get a voucher you can only cash out with a live attendant even if no taxes are owed.

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October 6th, 2015 at 8:40:33 PM permalink
I have a picture of a $.58 hand pay, pretty sure the machine ran out of paper lol
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October 6th, 2015 at 10:33:06 PM permalink
Mohegan Sun used to handpay $600 quads in $1 pickem poker. It was very annoying. When asked why, the slot attendants opined it was because the higher ups didn't think it looked like enough people were winning with just the handpays over the W2G threshold.
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October 6th, 2015 at 11:13:41 PM permalink


Just happened at a major casino
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October 7th, 2015 at 12:55:44 AM permalink
Rincon in San Diego routinely had hand pays for $1,000 wins on slots and video poker. But then, when they started cutting back on floor personnel they reprogrammed their machines for credits.

Many players guessed they programmed the hand pays at $1000 to generate tips for their floor workers. But I never saw a floor worker stand around waiting for a tip on a handpay.
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October 7th, 2015 at 5:49:37 AM permalink
A couple of times recently systems were down and everything was handpaying at two big casinos. One was early morning downtown and the other was over at Sam's Town. I think the Sam's Town one was particularly f#$%ed because it was over a period of 6 hours. Every single cashout was generating a handpay and it was nuts.

On the regular, The D's coin-droppers upstairs would trigger a hand pay for more than $250 cashout but these may be gone. Eureka does handpays on wins of either $400 or $500 and they put a picture of every "jackpot" online.
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October 8th, 2015 at 5:23:11 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

I know a lot of us get irritated at a $1201 handpay, and there has been some talk of government imposing a $600 reporting threshold...



$225, just a few days ago. (Penny slots? Yes.. Killing time with $20 while waiting for a promo.)

The attendant explained that in this case it wasn't because of a reporting requirement, the credit meter just didn't have that many digits in it. She didn't do any government paperwork, and just handed me cash out of a fanny pack.


So... Small handpays! Who bothered to catch a picture? How small of a handpay have you gotten?

What state?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 8th, 2015 at 7:36:53 AM permalink
I hit 4AWAK on a 50c machine at the Plaza in Las Vegas and they hand pay me 9 x $100 and 5 x $20! (hint hint)
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October 8th, 2015 at 1:30:23 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

Mohegan Sun used to handpay $600 quads in $1 pickem poker. It was very annoying. When asked why, the slot attendants opined it was because the higher ups didn't think it looked like enough people were winning with just the handpays over the W2G threshold.



I sincerely hope this is not true. If it is true, it's basically saying that the casinos are purposely inconveniencing the players (and also arguably hustling tips) in order to advertise.

That's just morally wrong if it's true.

They would be advertising at the player's expense

If you want to make it look like you're having more winners, you're supposed to improve the pay table.
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