thespesios
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June 5th, 2015 at 2:28:55 AM permalink
Hello to everyone,

I am new to the forum so if my questions ara answered elsewhere I apologize in advance.

What I would like to ask is this.
Given that the outcome of any given spin is determined by the RNG, what happens in slots that have the "nudge" feature? Let's take for example NetEnt's Super Nudge 6000. When playing at the supermeter, the spin button is hit and the RNG determines the result. Is the outcome affected by the number of nudges (the bet size) or would the result be the same whether the nudges are 1,2 or 3?

And another question if I may
In some online slots, there are what are called "Mystery Wins" for some combinations. How is the win size determined?

Thank you very much
thespesios
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June 5th, 2015 at 2:29:48 AM permalink
Sorry I meant "Random"...
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June 5th, 2015 at 5:12:03 AM permalink
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And another question if I may
In some online slots, there are what are called "Mystery Wins" for some combinations. How is the win size determined?

Thank you very much

Can you link me to an example?


Are you talking about random jackpots or mystery jackpots?

From what I know of the mystery jackpots online(actually called random jackpots) example RGT progressive random jackpots are very common, games like Caesars Empire,Enchanted garden,Diamond Dozen.

Mystery/random jackpots can work a few different ways, but a common way is to have the RNG select either a jackpot amount or coin in number. lets say it picks $10,182.12 or coin in number 100,531. Whenever someone plays, it adds a small % of their wager to the meter forcing it to go up.

Whoever makes the bet pushes the meter to 10,182.12 wins. Or whoever puts in credit number 100,531 wins.

It's not a random combination or win amount.

Some B&M Must hits base the meter movement on wins.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
thespesios
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June 8th, 2015 at 2:46:11 AM permalink
Thanks for your reply!

I was referring to mystery symbols in games like Super Nudge 6000, Mega Joker 6000 or Mega Joker, in which the Joker or Mystery symbols award wins varying in size. How is the win size calculated?
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June 17th, 2015 at 9:19:11 AM permalink
by the payout setting in the machine. it is made to take in 0-25%.
thespesios
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June 22nd, 2015 at 12:19:39 AM permalink
Thanks.

Any thoughts on the 'nudge' feature?
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June 22nd, 2015 at 1:53:30 AM permalink
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Thanks.

Any thoughts on the 'nudge' feature?

Who are you thanking and why? I'm not sure what information you got. The machines are very complicated, with lots going on (very fun slots for sure) and unless someone has inside information or a ton of experience I'm not sure if anybody can give you a good answer. My guess is you have a better feel for them than anyone here.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
thespesios
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June 24th, 2015 at 3:44:32 AM permalink
Basically I am thanking you and everybody else, for being kind enough to post a reply. I am not looking for solid facts (which in games based on random factors and/or statistics derived from very large time periods, are practically non-existent) but in sharing of experience. Which may demolish a few myths and illusions and base slot playing on the fun factor, rather than the life-changing expectations and compulsive gambling.
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June 24th, 2015 at 11:27:19 AM permalink
Quote: thespesios

Hello to everyone,

I am new to the forum so if my questions ara answered elsewhere I apologize in advance.

What I would like to ask is this.
Given that the outcome of any given spin is determined by the RNG, what happens in slots that have the "nudge" feature? Let's take for example NetEnt's Super Nudge 6000. When playing at the supermeter, the spin button is hit and the RNG determines the result. Is the outcome affected by the number of nudges (the bet size) or would the result be the same whether the nudges are 1,2 or 3?

And another question if I may
In some online slots, there are what are called "Mystery Wins" for some combinations. How is the win size determined?

Thank you very much


There's no way to determine without looking at the par sheet. In UK-style fruit games you can look at the reels and get a sense of what's happening but here, with everything in video, it's just as likely to be dynamic when the nudge feature is enabled. The only way you could even approach answering the question, without actually having the par sheet from NetEnt, is to attempt a deconstruction. See here: https://wizardofodds.com/games/slots/jackpot-party/
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