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chillivanilli
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July 18th, 2013 at 6:15:12 AM permalink
I am playing a Gaminator slot machine that has many different games available to play like Silzzing Hot Deluxe, Faust and Magical flute ect... Does it matter which game I play or is the RNG going to select the same payout regardless of the type of game played? Even if one has bonus and one doesn't? I ask because am I better off playing the games that are popular or playing the ones that aren't played as often like Faust?

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July 18th, 2013 at 10:54:03 AM permalink
The RNG works the same for all of them; it just chooses random numbers to decide which symbols appear for that spin. Payouts are based on the reel symbol distribution of each game and how its winning combination payouts are designed. Just because certain games are played more doesn't mean it necessarily pays better or worse than the others. Most likely, all of the games are probably within 1% of each other in long term return.
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July 18th, 2013 at 11:31:07 AM permalink
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July 18th, 2013 at 11:49:26 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I could be wrong but I believe each seperate game has its own seperate RNG or EPROM. I think VP with multiple games work the same way.



It's possible, but also redundant with regards to the RNG. You really only need one RNG. But I've never opened a slot up myself. :)
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July 18th, 2013 at 12:48:48 PM permalink
That is not correct. I have worked on many slot machines. Modern machines do not have separate storage medium for each game. Hard drives and flash drives are used on most newer games for storage and all of the games are on the same disk. Even most multigames in the last ten years were stored on the same EPROMS.

On all of the games i have done we share a RNG between games.
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July 18th, 2013 at 1:03:42 PM permalink
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July 18th, 2013 at 1:12:34 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Yea I can see with newer technology this being the case. Doesn't mean that each game has the same payback percentage.



No, but that was never implied either. If what I wrote lead you to believe that, sorry for being unclear. I wrote it was likely they would be within 1% of each other since I suspect slot managers have little incentive to make any of the games pay much more/less than the others. But if the casino wanted to, they could set one to be 85% and another to be 92% for example. And the only way to really know is to have inside knowledge of the payout setting, or sample the game and reverse engineer the reel strips like the Wizard did.
chillivanilli
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July 19th, 2013 at 5:47:50 AM permalink
Thank you all for the info. I was just curious how a multi game system worked. It seems that most games are very similar in their payouts just characters are displayed differently based on the game. So I would think the RNG is the same because most of these games have bonuses and same 10 or 20 lines. But how does a game on the same machine without a bonus system pay the same as one with a bonus system? Like Slizzing Hot Deluxe 5 lines vs Magic Flute with 10 lines and bonuses?
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July 20th, 2013 at 12:42:30 PM permalink
Quote: chillivanilli

Thank you all for the info. I was just curious how a multi game system worked. It seems that most games are very similar in their payouts just characters are displayed differently based on the game. So I would think the RNG is the same because most of these games have bonuses and same 10 or 20 lines. But how does a game on the same machine without a bonus system pay the same as one with a bonus system? Like Slizzing Hot Deluxe 5 lines vs Magic Flute with 10 lines and bonuses?



Generally the lines pay less back to you. Here in this example from the "Hexbreaker" video slot, line wins only tend to return 53.219% of your money back. Scatter pays pay 5.892% back, and the two bonus games pay back 28.406%. This yields a total return of 87.517%, very standard for penny slots.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/slots/hexbreaker/
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July 23rd, 2013 at 9:03:31 PM permalink
Chilli, you're misunderstanding what the RNG does. It does not decide your prize, it just picks a number and feeds it to the slot software.

Basically-

1) You pull handle/push button
2) RNG gives a number (we'll say 12) to the slot software
3) Software looks at PAR sheet for the specific game and sees that 12=Bar for reel one
4) Reel one stops spinning with a bar on the line
5) RNG gives another number (we'll say 5)
6) Software looks at PAR sheet for the specific game and sees that 5=Bonus symbol for reel two
7) Reel two stops spinning with a Bonus on the line
8) RNG gives another number (we'll say 53)
9) Software looks at PAR sheet for the specific game and sees that 53=Bar for reel three
10) Reel three stops spinning with a bar on the line
11) You get paid for Bar Bonus Bar

insert more money and repeat
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