Does good VP also mean good slots?
April 27th, 2013 at 4:02:27 AM
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In vegas, is there a positive correlation between if a casino has higher paytable VP (i.e. 100%+ full pay) and higher theo payback slot machines? For example, would the .25 double diamond theo payback at these casinos be 94% or 95%, instead of 90% or 92.5%?
April 27th, 2013 at 4:42:09 AM
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All casinos strive for a mix. All casinos find that if they get too many of those darned leeches sucking at a Video Poker Full Pay machine and hogging the hell out it, their customers get sore so they will rip out the full pay stuff if they have to so as to get rid of the hogs. In general, if a casino has to buy locals with good VP they will also be buying them with what would count as good slots. Its places like the Venetian that can afford to have lousy slots. Other casinos can't afford their machines that low.
April 27th, 2013 at 10:01:58 AM
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Yes. The casinos never publish their slot paybacks, but the ones that have (Palms & El Cortez) have a very high correlation between slot payback and VP payback.Quote: IAchance5In vegas, is there a positive correlation between if a casino has higher paytable VP (i.e. 100%+ full pay) and higher theo payback slot machines? For example, would the .25 double diamond theo payback at these casinos be 94% or 95%, instead of 90% or 92.5%?
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April 27th, 2013 at 11:27:06 AM
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I don't know but if you go to a casino that has full pay video poker, If you sit down at any random video poker game at that casino, there is probably a 99 per cent chance that you are not sitting at a full pay machine. I don't know if there is any positive correlation but it seems to me that full pay VP is kind of an advertising gimmick. Even if a casino has full pay machines, there are only a few of them and are generally in low foot traffic areas.
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April 27th, 2013 at 12:52:24 PM
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There may be a small to moderate correlation, but with slot machines, you'll never really know without a PAR sheet or a videophone and a lot of bookkeeping/combinatorics.
For my home casino base, this correlation is not exactly true.
The best paying video poker selection for quarters is at Hollywood (formally Harrah's):
It has 99.8% Triple Bonus Plus, 99.69% Super DDB, 99.66% 35/8/5 Bonus, 99.54% JoB, and 99.45% Bonus Deuces.
Ameristar is next best with 99.54% JoB, 99.45% Bonus Deuces, and 99.17% Bonus.
Feb. 2013 quarter machine returns in St. Louis:
Ameristar: 94.34%
River City: 94.24%
Hollywood: 93.56%
Lumiere: 93.50%
For my home casino base, this correlation is not exactly true.
The best paying video poker selection for quarters is at Hollywood (formally Harrah's):
It has 99.8% Triple Bonus Plus, 99.69% Super DDB, 99.66% 35/8/5 Bonus, 99.54% JoB, and 99.45% Bonus Deuces.
Ameristar is next best with 99.54% JoB, 99.45% Bonus Deuces, and 99.17% Bonus.
Feb. 2013 quarter machine returns in St. Louis:
Ameristar: 94.34%
River City: 94.24%
Hollywood: 93.56%
Lumiere: 93.50%
