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AZDuffman
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January 7th, 2012 at 10:23:03 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear


Be Kind To The Dealer

Some dealers have a hard time reaching the ends of the table. Give them an assist by pushing bets forward when the betting round is complete.

While the occasional curse after losing a hand is understandable, excessive cursing or berating the dealer for making you lose is not tolerated and can get you removed.

Dealers live off tips. It is traditional to tip the dealer after winning a pot. However, most players will not tip if the pot was small. On the other hand, some players will tip even if their small raise has chased everyone out of the pot, netting them a mere $3 win. A $1 tip is typical unless the pot is large.

Dealers are human and do sometimes make mistakes. Try to be observant to help correct mistakes, but do not berate a dealer when a mistake is discovered.



One thing I would add for novices here. When the button moves to the far ends of the table it is common for players to move it so the dealer does not have to reach. Some houses might not allow this but often it is allowed. If you do this, clearly announce "BUTTON'S GOOD" so the dealer and everyone else at the table can hear you. Try to see the flow of the table before you move it as a novice.
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Tiltpoul
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January 7th, 2012 at 4:24:02 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear


I'm going to eliminate (or greatly reduce) the section about Straddles. Possibly other sections too.



I'd say greatly reduce, but don't eliminate it. If a player is completely unaware of a straddle, and the casino has a rule about any money out must be played, it could cause somebody distress. Perhaps you don't need to go into the Mississippi straddle, but to eliminate it completely would be neglectful. Besides, straddle rules are rarely posted on the casino rule board, so it would be a very new concept to a beginner.

I also think the "oversized chip" rule is extremely important to explain, but keep it simple. I'm not sure (or don't remember) if you also explained the difference between "ALL-IN" and "CALLING AN ALL-IN" but that might be important to cover, especially for new NL players.
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DJTeddyBear
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January 24th, 2012 at 12:26:43 PM permalink
I made a bunch of little changes, and a couple not so little changes in response to some of the comments in this thread.


Quote: cardshark

Your article makes the casino game look way more complicated and difficult to learn than it actually is. ....

You're right, but I have a hard time figuring out what to edit. Instead, I added a paragraph to the intro:
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Note that this article is probably a lot longer than it needs to be. A true student of the game would immerse himself in these details before going to a poker room. The intended audience of this article is a more casual player who may become familiar with some of these details, and return here to review some of the situations that may have popped up after their first experience.



I've also moved the sections "Post / Buy the Button" and "Straddle" towards the end, after a new heading "Advanced Concepts."
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January 24th, 2012 at 2:25:01 PM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

I like to have as many chips as possible, so getting 8 $1 chips in change has gained me 7 more chips than I had before the hand, having a larger stack looks more intimidating when you shove all-in, its not going to intimidate a pro, but your playing $1/2! A novice will see the shear number of chips and insta fold a marginal hand without considering that your 3 stacks of white chips are actually just 6 of his red chips.

There is also the situation where a novice (or someone like you, no offence intended) isnt paying attention, sees the $10 and assumes its a raise, and folds, where he might of called a $2 flat call, not the outcome you want if you have a big hand, but then you wouldnt make this move if you actually want a call.



WoE...The first situation could cost novices A LOT of money...many of the players they're likely to try to intimidate that way will call them down and they'll lose their stack!


The second situation I also like to employ and I try to voice my action toward the dealer rather than the table.
AcesAndEights
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January 24th, 2012 at 2:34:55 PM permalink
Good article, I have been wanting to learn poker, but I have not taken the time yet. In fact I may even be below the knowledge level assumed in this article, as I have played very few home games.

One thing I have read about on other sites is spread limit games; would they warrant a section next to fixed limit/NL/PL? I'm assuming they are less common since you don't mention them, but the local casino where I play blackjack offers a spread limit game (in fact I think it's the default game running at their poker table).
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DJTeddyBear
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January 24th, 2012 at 5:27:28 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

One thing I have read about on other sites is spread limit games; would they warrant a section next to fixed limit/NL/PL? I'm assuming they are less common since you don't mention them, but the local casino where I play blackjack offers a spread limit game (in fact I think it's the default game running at their poker table).

Actually, I omitted them because:

A - I rarely see them.
B - I've never played them.
C - When I have seen them, I haven't asked what they are.

Mind you, although I've had the concept for the article bouncing around my head for quite a while, I haven't had any trips to a poker room since I first posted it.

I'm going to the Sands tomorrow evening - which is why I re-read my article and tweaked it today. I don't think they offer it, but I know several of their floor people have a lot of poker experience from AC. If I remember, I'll get the full poop.
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January 24th, 2012 at 6:19:11 PM permalink
My impression was that spread limit games have been somewhat common a couple decades ago, when the no-limit version still didn't sit well with everyone. Now it's neither here, nor there.

Strictly speaking there are a couple more options for the limits, but I don't think they are really necessary to know. If you encounter a game other than FL, PL or NL, there's nothing wrong with asking. A newbie is going to be outed as a newbie anyway (but there are so many advantages to being thought of as fish without being one that it's hardly a bad thing).
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DJTeddyBear
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March 23rd, 2012 at 6:49:08 AM permalink
I've made a couple minor few spelling / grammar fixes to the article.

In addition, prompted by the Who is reponsible for guarding my chips when I take a break? thread, I added a couple sentences to the end of the Chip Stack section:
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If you need to take a smoke / bathroom / food / whatever break, and intend on returning to that table, you must leave all your chips where they are. If you are uncomfortable with leaving the chips there, you should count it out, and alert the dealer and the players on each side how much it is. Usually, there is no reason to be nervous. While Poker is a game of taking money from the other people at the table, outright theft is very rare.



I also added a completely new section at the very end, regarding Poker Leagues. I've recently become a dealer in one such league, so I had to give us a plug.
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DJTeddyBear
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April 17th, 2012 at 8:15:51 AM permalink
Inspired by Nareed's inquiry about tournaments, I updated the article in the original post, to include some specific tourny details.
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April 17th, 2012 at 9:27:36 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Inspired by Nareed's inquiry about tournaments, I updated the article in the original post, to include some specific tourny details.



That was quick!

Thank you. It seems my deeply ingrained habit of punctuality could potentially pay off.
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