Proprietary poker room games?

Quick question:

Are there any proprietary (i.e. patented, licensed) games being played in casino poker rooms alongside standards like hold'em, 7-stud, or Omaha? I don't mean house-banked games like Let It Ride or Three Card Poker out on the casino floor, but pot-based games in a card room where the house has no stake and just takes a rake or time/seat charge. I'm unaware of any that have actually been in operation, though I know Derek Webb had a new version of hold'em at G2E this year. His idea was to alternate the play direction from clockwise to counterclockwise after each bet.

Has anyone seen any such games anywhere in actual play?

I would think it's very hard to introduce such a thing.

If it's proprietary then the casino has to pay for it. Therefore, they'd have to rake more at that table than other tables. And the players would be unfamiliar with it, so you'd have trouble finding people willing to play it.

Derek Webb's idea of switching direction sounds simple, but is actually so radical that it would require a whole new way of thinking about Hold'Em, again, causing people to be unwilling to play.

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Rush Poker is different from other games because of the higher speed. Rush Poker is not an independent type of poker actually it can be played in all kinds of poker as long as there are enough players to play. In Rush Poker you change table every time you have folded a hand and you can actually just click the Quick-Fold, and then you will automatically move to another table and dealt a hand straight away. This naturally requires a lot of players and that it is why it is one of the world biggest poker rooms that have introduced Rush, and you can play it in both Pot Limit Omaha and No Limit Hold'em and that is both in Multi-table tournaments and in Cash games. In Cash-Games buy in starts down to 1 dollar and there are a couple of Rush-Free roll Tournaments every day.

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Difficult but not impossible, As proved by Rush poker. It is not just a question of more rake, but offering players more of a choice. Look at all the different penny slot machines on a casino floor. And players readily adept to a new game as long as it is only a minor change and still conforms to the normal standards of poker. Same hand rankings, flop probabilities, how outs are counted, etc. If it increases the rake, all the better

Rush Poker is different than what was asked about in the original post. For one thing, it will only work online. for another, it does not change the basic game.

Back to the original question...

I doubt that it's possible to introduce a proprietary game into a poker room, unless the inventor was doing it for glory only, and not charging the casino a fee.

Some poker rooms, if they have a spare table, spare dealer and enough interested players, will deal anthing the players want as long as they are clear on the rules.

I never said I would change the basic game. Any online game can also be played in a poker room or real casino.. Digital 21 and Poker-pro are pioneers in that field. With increasing labor costs and the fact that the new generation is learning to play online does not bode well for brick and mortar casino's. Just go to your local horse race track. It is either closed, has few live patrons, or is a racino.
Someone else here made the point about the popularity of penny slots not being good for Vegas. Why travel there to play a game readily available down the street? I grew up as a teenager in the 50's and there was no state lottery, only Vegas had legalized gambling, and the local race track Pimlico had large crowds even during the week, not just on weekends. Now it is on the verge of closing and selling the Preakness to the highest bidder.
So to the naysayers who think on-line poker won't be legalized in the next 10 years, that people won't gamble on mobile devices, well I disagree respectfully. OOPs my pager just went off. Need to find a payphone ! Tried that lately LOL

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I never said I would change the basic game.

The original post did.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

The original post did.

I don't mean house-banked games like Let It Ride or Three Card Poker out on the casino floor, but pot-based games in a card room where the house has no stake and just takes a rake or time/seat charge.

A matter of interpretation on my part. Sorry. Thanks for the input.

I noticed that Venetian will be trying something called "Position Poker (TM)" at the June Deepstack series. It sounds basically like a kill pot style game where the winner of the last pot is awarded a 'winner' button and gets to act last on every street (after the regular button).

Position Poker is a game that Johnny Chan is trying to bring forward. Basically the game is the same as NL holdem, except that when u win a pot, you will get a special button. That person will act after the button but before the small and big blind preflop and after the button on the flop, turn, and river regardless of position. Since the Venetian is willing to help promote the game for one day, they have agreed to add $ 5000 to the prizepool.

Mini Tex 3 Card Hold 'Em Has rules for playing as a player vs player version, although I've only seen the player vs dealer version.

The last new game I saw introduced to the Poker room was an electronic video table. The game was still PL or NL Hold Em, but there were no dealer's nor "cards". The players would get two cards on the display in front of them, and by cupping their hand over the image, the corners would peek up to reveal the hole cards. Betting was done by touch screen as well, with images of chips moving into a larger display in the middle of the table.

It didn't last too long.

I imagine that table is probably on a cruise ship now ? Nothing like a captive audience in search of entertainment.

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The last new game I saw introduced to the Poker room was an electronic video table. The game was still PL or NL Hold Em, but there were no dealer's nor "cards". The players would get two cards on the display in front of them, and by cupping their hand over the image, the corners would peek up to reveal the hole cards. Betting was done by touch screen as well, with images of chips moving into a larger display in the middle of the table.

It didn't last too long.

There's two in the local casino in Victoria, BC. Never played on them.

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Derek Webb's idea of switching direction sounds simple, but is actually so radical that it would require a whole new way of thinking about Hold'Em, again, causing people to be unwilling to play.

That was precisely the feedback that he got from a poker journalist while I was standing at his booth. The journalist seemed quite put out that someone would even propose making such a radical change to the game, and suggested that no serious poker player would ever play it.

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Bettors know and love the three-card poker table game for its fast action and big payouts on monster hands.

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Webb, who splits his time these days between Las Vegas and Darby, England, likens the process of getting casinos to license the game to "pulling teeth," and notes that it was one of the toughest challenges of his career.