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unJon
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October 6th, 2019 at 5:53:41 AM permalink
The 2+2 thread is now making my eyes bleed. Pages and pages of inanity or repetitive posts. Shame as it was focused and awesome the first couple of days. I suppose that it was inevitable.

Also there are some reaches in declaring God Mode on some hands. My favorite is when Mike calls and doesnít raise with the nut flush on a paired board (opponent had straight flush). Would be a great example of God Mode if the board didnít pair, but it did.
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gordonm888
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October 6th, 2019 at 7:32:47 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

OUTRAGEOUS!!!

You mind if I share this and quote you?



Of course you may. Although I think this news is leaking out.
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unJon
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October 6th, 2019 at 8:02:33 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Of course you may. Although I think this news is leaking out.

Itís public. The lawyer is on the Stonesí parent companyís pleadings with CA gaming when Stones got its license suspended. Itís actually not uncommon for a corporate to hire its own counsel to run an independent investigation of what happened. In theory the corporation is best served by offering up any employees that were in on it to preserve the reputation of the corporation.
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AxelWolf
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October 6th, 2019 at 9:18:29 AM permalink
When Mike Postle First Cheated.

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/ddzqgp/when_mike_postle_first_cheated/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Not sure if this is related or not.


♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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October 6th, 2019 at 9:45:19 AM permalink
Mike P jumps in the commentator booth for an interview because the stream is down. Skip to 1:06:15.
then take note at about 1:12:00, as they are talking to Mike P. and how he plays lower limits nowadays compared to his past. The commentator says, it almost feels like a free roll now. LOL.... If he only knew.
https://youtu.be/09jdsX8vkMI
Last edited by: AxelWolf on Oct 6, 2019
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
SOOPOO
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October 6th, 2019 at 10:03:15 AM permalink
Someone earlier said there wasn't enough evidence to convict? Really? That is only because it is possible you have jurors who would ignore as much expert testimony as the prosecution would want to show. Greed. Pure greed. If he just used his 'magic' one out of ten hands, and played the other 9 fair and square, he would make money at a fairly high rate, just it wouldn't look ridiculous like it does. He could have played forever.
AxelWolf
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October 6th, 2019 at 10:14:45 AM permalink
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Someone earlier said there wasn't enough evidence to convict? Really? That is only because it is possible you have jurors who would ignore as much expert testimony as the prosecution would want to show. Greed. Pure greed. If he just used his 'magic' one out of ten hands, and played the other 9 fair and square, he would make money at a fairly high rate, just it wouldn't look ridiculous like it does. He could have played forever.

I'm not sure how often these live-streams were available for him to play or if he needed a partner. He may have felt a sense of urgency to get as much money as he could while the getting was good. Who knows if he was donking the money off on other things or if he owed someone money. I don't think he ever thought somebody would compile all the videos or if he even knew he was suspected as cheating.

ONM made a good point that when somebody gets used to a certain amount of income and they feel compelled to keep generating similar amounts even if it means risking getting caught. I guess maybe that's the definition of greed.

Assuming there's no hard evidence I highly doubt he'll ever admit to this unless he's facing criminal charges with some kind of plea bargain.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Rigondeaux
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October 6th, 2019 at 10:48:31 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Someone earlier said there wasn't enough evidence to convict? Really? That is only because it is possible you have jurors who would ignore as much expert testimony as the prosecution would want to show. Greed. Pure greed. If he just used his 'magic' one out of ten hands, and played the other 9 fair and square, he would make money at a fairly high rate, just it wouldn't look ridiculous like it does. He could have played forever.



Postle made some legit points. People were calculating his bb/hr at 1/3. But those games were often straddled to $20, playing $4,000 deep. So all the experts accounts of his win rates were off a bunch.

Still obviously guilty but a conviction will be tricky. Most people know nothing about poker. It's very easy to confuse them.

Plus... Victims aren't sympathetic... Except the dude dying of cancer
mcallister3200
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October 6th, 2019 at 12:44:11 PM permalink
While he was almost certainly cheating, when youíre specifically hunting for something out of the ordinary the odds of finding something out of the ordinary are greater than normal (happens all the time when people looking for sports betting systems and find utterly meaningless ATS trends.) In court Iím sure heíd be able to have a statistician testify about the way Ingram/Polk analyzing it being not the way a statistician would, casting some doubt.
MaxPen
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October 6th, 2019 at 1:09:59 PM permalink
In the old days he would just be shot and taken out back. Today a bunch of people will just talk about it. Hopefully noone is dumb enough to keep sitting in a game with him.

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