dk
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November 3rd, 2009 at 12:28:39 AM permalink
For daily tournaments, I think Caesars, Wynn, and Venetian (in that order) offer the best value. I look for tournaments where the house rake is lowest and the buy-in is in the $100-$200 range. In my experience, tournaments with lower buy-ins all have prohibitive rakes. For the value, I think these rooms have the best structure.

For cash games, I found MGM to be much softer than Venetian. These are the only 2 I spent enough time in to rate, but I would be interested to hear of any softer games. I mostly play $1-$2 NLH. I would also be interested to here of any low/mid sized limit games (especially mixed games) in the $8-$16 or so range. I haven't found these at the 2 casinos I normally play, as the highest limit game is usually $4-$8 (Venetian) or $3-$6 (MGM).

I also heard they started a $1-$2 PLO game at Venetian, but I've never seen it. I'd be interested to find out how this game is and will look for it on my next trip (Dec 09).
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TDawg
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November 6th, 2009 at 7:20:33 PM permalink
I enjoy playing at Planet Hollywood. 65$ buy in and the players there seem to be tourists who are quick to fold to a big raise!

It has a nice atmosphere too...also the Starbucks about two minutes from the poker table is a plus.
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November 15th, 2009 at 4:05:30 AM permalink
A couple of years ago, O'Sheas was a decent place to play, had $45 tourneys running 4 times a day, generally got 10 players with top scooping around $300. Was fun to play and a soft quick tourney. Dont now if they still do but might be worth looking into.
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playpianoking
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January 7th, 2010 at 2:54:14 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

A couple of years ago, O'Sheas was a decent place to play, had $45 tourneys running 4 times a day, generally got 10 players with top scooping around $300. Was fun to play and a soft quick tourney. Dont now if they still do but might be worth looking into.


Right but I think it was something like $35+$10 ...ouch.
Croupier
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January 8th, 2010 at 5:27:50 AM permalink
Yeah, my memories have returned slightly. Was $35 for 1500 chips, $5 reg fee and $5 for a bonus 500 chips or something along those lines. But that was back in the days when i was ignorant of many things. was still good fun.
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DJTeddyBear
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January 8th, 2010 at 6:40:29 AM permalink
O'Sheas. Yeah, I played a tournament there once. $30 + $5. (or was it $25 + $5?)

I go to register, and was shorted $5 change. I asked about the other $5, and he said it was an add-on that everybody takes. I was so new to the game, that I didn't really know what an add-on was, but just accepted it.

Only 10 players, so there was one winner for $300. I was getting great cards. When it was down to about 5, I had pocket Kings and, as I was used to doing because I was still a relative novice, I slow-played them. After the hand was over, and the kings held up, the dealer actually yelled at me for taking such a risk by slow-playing them.

The next few hands I got crap, folded, and really had a chance to think about what she said.

As a result, I changed my style. Next thing I know, raking in pots, and it's heads-up!

I had about four or five times the chips as the other guy, and he says "Chop?"

I wasn't even sure what he meant. I *kinda* thought I knew what it meant, but while I thought about it a moment, he followed up with, "$140 / $160?" Now I realized that I knew what he meant, but decided that wasn't even close to fair. So I took a long, head-tilted look at my huge stack, and his puny stack, and finally said "Nah, I think I'd like to see how it works out." Four hands later it was over, and I took it down.

I already knew that head-up the game gets wierd. So if he had said something more reasonable, like 100/200 I would have agreed. But 140/160? Nope!

After I got paid, I walked out towards the strip. That dealer that gave me crap about the way I played the kings was dealing. Even though she kinda helped, I rubbed her nose in it - I waved the cash in her face.
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AZDuffman
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January 8th, 2010 at 8:37:04 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

O'Sheas. Yeah, I played a tournament there once. $30 + $5. (or was it $25 + $5?)

I go to register, and was shorted $5 change. I asked about the other $5, and he said it was an add-on that everybody takes. I was so new to the game, that I didn't really know what an add-on was, but just accepted it.

Only 10 players, so there was one winner for $300. I was getting great cards. When it was down to about 5, I had pocket Kings and, as I was used to doing because I was still a relative novice, I slow-played them. After the hand was over, and the kings held up, the dealer actually yelled at me for taking such a risk by slow-playing them.

The next few hands I got crap, folded, and really had a chance to think about what she said.

As a result, I changed my style. Next thing I know, raking in pots, and it's heads-up!

I had about four or five times the chips as the other guy, and he says "Chop?"

I wasn't even sure what he meant. I *kinda* thought I knew what it meant, but while I thought about it a moment, he followed up with, "$140 / $160?" Now I realized that I knew what he meant, but decided that wasn't even close to fair. So I took a long, head-tilted look at my huge stack, and his puny stack, and finally said "Nah, I think I'd like to see how it works out." Four hands later it was over, and I took it down.

I already knew that head-up the game gets wierd. So if he had said something more reasonable, like 100/200 I would have agreed. But 140/160? Nope!

After I got paid, I walked out towards the strip. That dealer that gave me crap about the way I played the kings was dealing. Even though she kinda helped, I rubbed her nose in it - I waved the cash in her face.




Sounds like my first live tourney. Ak-Chin in Phoenix. $30+10+10 but I was such a square I didn't know to take the add-on or that it was for the dealers. Something like 45 players. A few hands in someone makes a bonehead play but cathces the win. I say "Anything can happen I guess." Guy next to me says, "You must watch poker on TV, buy a book!"

We move on and I am card dead, get K-5. Guy goes allin and has me covered. I thought they told me I had him covered so I call and catch. Nice.

Later I do go all-in with KK. Some "ballcap and sunglasses kid" calls with AA. I catch the set and crack him. Next hand the guy to my left cracks another AA! Even the dealer was amazed at that. I'll let Wiz calculate the odd if he likes.

Now, I missed the announcement of who gets paid. Not wanting to look like the square I am I don't ask but rather try to "keep going to find out." Final five and they offer us some free drinks saying "we will have to figure the chop, take 10." I knew what a chop was but not to negotiate it or when to take it. They said we's get $260 or so and you would need to finish inthe top 2 to do better. Stacks were even so I took it as did everyone else--one of which was the guy who said, "Buy a book!"

Not a bad way to spend a vacation day!
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DJTeddyBear
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January 8th, 2010 at 9:22:33 AM permalink
So did you buy a book?

I could tell you my AA cracked story, but that's probably fodder for a new thread, since you know it will generate a lot of replies....
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January 8th, 2010 at 10:53:57 AM permalink
Guys, check out the wiz's page on texas hold'em for the odds of losing with AA. It's not rare at all, especially when you are 10 to a table (like most tournaments).
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January 8th, 2010 at 11:23:55 AM permalink
Exactly. It's like getting getting 2 Aces In BJ. Great start. But don't think you can't lose, and don't be surprised if you do.
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January 8th, 2010 at 12:12:20 PM permalink
Quote: cardshark

Guys, check out the wiz's page on texas hold'em for the odds of losing with AA. It's not rare at all, especially when you are 10 to a table (like most tournaments).



Yes, but twice in a row?

Yes, I bought a few books :-)
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