gamerfreak
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December 17th, 2017 at 3:39:59 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Heard it all for years.

Most of the time, it just doesn't add up, for various reasons. Lifestyle is one of them. This guy Limon, who was on GWAE a couple times, put it pretty well when some online pros claimed they were making like $400/hr at Commerce. "Cool! So, can I see your yacht?"


A lot of times people who claim to make some crazy hourly figure fail to mention how many hours they are actually getting that on a regular basis.

There's times where I'm sure I theoretically earn $150/hr+ with my business, but I'm certainly not getting 40 of those hours in every week.
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December 17th, 2017 at 4:08:41 PM permalink
Sure. And I think with poker players, they are being intentionally misleading.

In AP you might say a play is worth X an hour, and it's a little clearer what you mean. Though that rarely accounts for all the hours actually invested.

Someone who says they make $120/hr playing poker and is a full time player, to me is saying that is their average income. A poker player who can make $120 only between 1-3am friday night on labor day weekend, doesn't "make 120/hr" any more than you make 150/hr or a lawyer with one big client they overbill makes 250/hr.
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December 17th, 2017 at 5:34:20 PM permalink
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When a dispute like this one takes place it's import to contact news reporters. Reporters will contact the casino, asking them to state their position on a dispute. This pressure on the casino is important if you want the casino to settle a dispute quickly rather than appealing a dispute. Social media is also valuable. Ensure that the names of the casino and management are included in reports and posts.



I imagine the newspaper being owned by the casinos competition can't hurt.
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Ibeatyouraces
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December 17th, 2017 at 6:28:29 PM permalink
My biggest pet peeve about "professional poker players" is the "career earning" figure. Most "top pros" are free rolling thanks to their sponsors.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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December 17th, 2017 at 6:49:31 PM permalink
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My biggest pet peeve about "professional poker players" is the "career earning" figure. Most "top pros" are free rolling thanks to their sponsors.


You know itís just a strategy to put a possible opponent ( you) in the future game you may or not play together to have a small doubt in your mind as to your self worth or abilities in playing against such a high (sic) career earnings figures player. Tilting played forward. Iím sure you have heard in sports commentary that this play x has no fear re play z in opposition team.
I usually talk that person up ( top pros) and really over inflate the ego for them , blindsided them played forward. You be comfortable with your earnings as itís only your head on your body that hits the pillow at night . Let them lie to you and other as much as they like. Encourage them and you will succeed. Blind side .
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December 17th, 2017 at 6:59:22 PM permalink
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My biggest pet peeve about "professional poker players" is the "career earning" figure. Most "top pros" are free rolling thanks to their sponsors.



Even then, they don't count the stake.

Bt WSOP accounting if you bet 100 at even money on 10 nfl games and won 2, you would have made a profit of 400.
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December 17th, 2017 at 7:03:53 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Even then, they don't count the stake.

Bt WSOP accounting if you bet 100 at even money on 10 nfl games and won 2, you would have made a profit of 400.




Not really, you'd have career earnings of $400. Might even call them "winnings", but certainly would not call it a $400 profit.
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beachmonkey
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December 17th, 2017 at 7:31:39 PM permalink
I know this not a poker thread per say , and Iím sorry if this sends the thread sideways. But I will anyway. Re this thing about misleading information re poker earnings. A little event years ago, I was perhaps a bit more abrasive than usual. Iím at a poker table $500 buy in. Mid afternoon. People are arriving for the usual Wednesday night tournament, they play cash games first ( I love them really) ( I really really do ) I m almost wetting myself now with how much I love them. Sorry . Iím sure many of you vultures understand.
They are mostly arriving that day with the bracelets, the little plastic or metal slabs with tournament winner etc . After awhile I ask as one must always ask how they won it etc they tell you pair of deuces etc. reveal game play etc
The ego saws ,they win a couple pots , I fold nice hands to them, the heads are too big overinflated. I pull out a clean tampon and put it on the table next to my stack. You know unwrap and fluff it up. Pretty much cuts conversations right out. After a while couple of hands I say to one of them do you know what this is ? I say itís my bracelet, itís my tournament winning trophy you know Iím a tournament winning c##t and my trophy is so useful I can use it. Talk about tilting, shocked faces on these poor folks we took their cash . By the way I did get a bit of a chat to clean it up from the pit boss. The other regulars loved it.
As just something to combat the opponent perceived notion that display of a bracelets will make their opponent tremble before them and the skill the obviously have. Yeah right. Play yar tournament lie to yar mates blar blar blar.
It takes more than that to cut it at poker, but do encourage your opponent to think they are better than they are as that is the biggest pot to be won.
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P. s I did win the trophy for being a certified c##t I must confess. Oh them where the days. haha
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December 22nd, 2017 at 1:47:21 AM permalink
Bad Beat Jackpot in Detroit's Motor City Casino is over the one million dollar mark.

And an online bad beat jackpot is at half a million.
Last edited by: FleaStiff on Dec 22, 2017
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December 22nd, 2017 at 3:56:10 AM permalink
Personally I'm not a big fan of Station Casinos compared to most of their competition, and I generally prefer to take my business to others. In fact I had a tiresome dispute with their central office drones several years ago that I eventually won ONLY because I'm obsessive about record keeping in casinos, and was able to document everything about the matter six ways to Sunday. But.

Yesterday I had an extended & quite detailed conversation with an individual who was at that table (and dealt into the hand) at Red Rock when this occurred in front of her. FWIW, I am personally 100% confident in the accuracy of this person's detailed account of what happened. Some highly relevant facts:

1. They were NOT head-up in the pot when the stupid Hollywooding douchebag exposed his hand to the table. At that moment it was a FOUR-WAY contest for the pot with three other players still in the hand.

2. The impulsive imbecile was all-in at that point, but there was still significant action yet to be taken among the others who all had major decisions yet to be made, with sizeable chip stacks to potentially be put in play among them.

3. It was a no-limit game.

4 They were not even on the river when he deliberately displayed his hand during multi-player action. Amazingly, the narcissistic spaz actually did his sleazy thing with action still pending from multiple players ON THE TURN.

5. Of course it was hit and paid out shortly after, as anyone who actually knows a damn thing about how the Station multi-property BBJ really works would already have guessed. Two days later it was hit at Sunset Station, resulting in payouts for the entire amount of the accumulated rigidly segregated promo drop to all players at all tables in all their poker rooms in all their properties at that time.

6. If the ongoing dispute eventually gets decided in the childish idiot's favor, Station Casinos will be on the hook for paying out the BBJ twice, including a retroactive payout to all players who were in games at all their properties' poker rooms when the incident of the sleazy moron screwing up the play of a hand occurred. And yes, they most definitely DO have a record of each and every potentially affected player, just as they would if it was paid at that time. If that ends up being the result, they will have to pay a little more than about $150,000.00 in total out of company funds into the promo account which normally has NOTHING TO DO with any of the house rake or any other casino funds and is not ordinarily allowed to be commingled in any way at all, as required by State law, by NV Gaming regulation, and continuous auditing by Gaming Enforcement.
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