Why is 7-stud not popular?
Quote: Zer0So my casino has 7-stud but it's only a 2-6 no ante spread limit, and it's usually the older crowd looking for a more casual game that's interested. I've always wanted to try pot limit stud with $1 antes but for some reson none of the hardcore players that usually play holdem want to try stud with serious rules. Why is that? What about this game itself is unappealing?
Pot limit stud is rough game with the extra betting round because Stud is sort of a "chasing game". And the hardcore players haven't played Stud enough to be good at it. They would rather play BigO or whatever...lol I dunno why that game took off in our area...meh I would love to get a Stud8 game going. Love that game. Played that before Harrah's Tunica closed, had a ball.
Also, you have to keep track of how many discarded suits and cards were played.
In Holdem, all you will ever see at most is 8 cards.
Quote: tringlomanePot limit stud is rough game with the extra betting round because Stud is sort of a "chasing game". And the hardcore players haven't played Stud enough to be good at it. They would rather play BigO or whatever...lol I dunno why that game took off in our area...meh I would love to get a Stud8 game going. Love that game. Played that before Harrah's Tunica closed, had a ball.
I just don't get how anybody could like Omaha better than stud, I HATE getting trips in the hole so much. I guess I just like having all my cards all to myself. Everybody thinks it's so weird that I'm 25 and like stud.
Quote: WizardofnothingI'm racking my brain how you can see 8 in Holdem??????
5 board. 2 your hand. 1 peek at neighbor who refuses to protect his cards despite you telling him three times that you can see them.
Quote: socksIt's also worse for the pros which makes it harder to get games going and keep them going through slow periods. Hold'em is more fast paced, so you can get more hands in, and it can be played for longer since it doesn't require as much concentration to remember, and make decisions on, all the cards that are out and/or folded.
So people still usually chase pretty far even with a pot limit/ante? If so I guess that would explain it, still it would be nice to have a higher stake game with bad beat/high hand jackpots because then there wouldn't be any of that "both your hole cards have to play" crap. 2-6 spread limit no ante doesn't even bring in enough rake to cover costs let alone have a jackpot.
Yes, and as a result, there is a much larger gap between good and bad players in stud than in hold'em. Any schmoe can catch a lucky run and win a hold'em tournament. That's virtually impossible in stud.Quote: AceCrAAckersStud is a game that requires most memorization and hence most skill.
Games with big skill gaps between good and bad players do not last very long in an environment that relies on having far more players than just the really good ones, unless you can create enough of an audience to make it a spectator sport. There are probably more people watching kids play DOTA2 than pros play poker these days.
Quote: MathExtremistThere are probably more people watching kids play DOTA2 than pros play poker these days.
Hell I can't say I blame them, I remember at e3 2 years ago me and my friends were watching the Super Smash Bros tournament and that was a hell of a lot more exciting than WPT/WSOP. Either way, I still say Stud > Omaha because my cards are all mine, I caught a straight flush playing 2-6 and I'll tell you what, having those 5 cards all in my hand and mine alone, that's an awesome feeling and I've gotten quads in holdem and even gotten a couple hundred in jackpots but it's just not the same experience as getting a big hand like that when all 7 cards are all yours. I just wish I could get a jackpot out of that but I can see why they wouldn't wanna do it like that.
Quote: MathExtremistYes, and as a result, there is a much larger gap between good and bad players in stud than in hold'em. Any schmoe can catch a lucky run and win a hold'em tournament. That's virtually impossible in stud.
Games with big skill gaps between good and bad players do not last very long in an environment that relies on having far more players than just the really good ones, unless you can create enough of an audience to make it a spectator sport. There are probably more people watching kids play DOTA2 than pros play poker these days.
I watched "Heroes of the Dorm" tonight on ESPN2. I'm still pretty confused by the game...
Quote: MathExtremistGames with big skill gaps between good and bad players do not last very long in an environment that relies on having far more players than just the really good ones, unless you can create enough of an audience to make it a spectator sport.
This is true and the "spectator sport" aspect is actually how no-limit holdem became more popular than limit. No-limit is so much better on TV, and for many people it's more fun as well, but the bad players go broke much more quickly than in limit.
Quote: MrGoldenSunThis is true and the "spectator sport" aspect is actually how no-limit holdem became more popular than limit. No-limit is so much better on TV, and for many people it's more fun as well, but the bad players go broke much more quickly than in limit.
And even if you are a decent player it's still really easy to screw up and go broke in a NL cash game, which is why I only do tournanents and 3-6;limit
